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04-13-2008 12:34:36

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Hi, I'm looking at putting up a steel building. Metal siding and roofing is available at home centers and I just need to buy the I or H beam steel framing and maybe some light channel iron for purlings. I'm looking at a 40' by 80' or so with 10' or 12' sidewalls. It would be a peaked roof. I don't want to use wood poles cause of termites, etc that will get into them at some point (seen it happen). I know that the end rafters usually have an extra cross member for sliding doors, etc.

If you don't mind helping me out, those with steel beamed buildings, I ask that you measure your beams for type, size, thickness, and spacing. Anything on purling size and spacing will help. I know some designs have different size ceiling beams from support beams and I've seen some with tapered beams but I doubt I can buy that stuff. Kansas has moderate snow but plenty of wind loading. There is such a high markup from the steel building companies I don't want to go that route especially since I would put it up myself with some extra help of course.

A suggested format is:(I'm making these up)
Building size: 40x80x12 feet
Wall beam size: 8" I beam at 1/4" thick wall
Ceiling rafter beam size: 8" I beam at 1/4" thick
Beam & rafter spacing: 12' centers
Purling size and spacing: 6" purlings every 8'

Thanks in advance.

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RVS

04-14-2008 10:32:07

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 12:34:36

Just curious if you have thought about a fabric covered building if it is just for storage.Should be cheaper and not wood.They come in varies sizes. Some are even a portable size up to 38ft wide by ??length you want.my email is open

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TomTex

04-14-2008 06:49:23

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 12:34:36

Like others have told you. Even though you dont need a permit to build in the county, you insurance company will not cover the building without seeing the specs. Why not buy building as a kit from reliable source and build/assemble it yourself. They will design it with your height, width, length, number/types doors and windows, colors, etc. Tom

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T_Bone

04-14-2008 00:13:53

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 12:34:36

Hi bc,

You just didn't give us info info to work with. Even if you did, you still would need a set of engineered plans as this ain't no lean too shed your talking about building :)

You would probably need approx a 20inch deep bar joist to clear span 40ft and maybe more depending on your live load demand for your area.

Depending on the sheeting weight, rib configuration and load design would determine the joist spacing.

There's just too many unkowns to even take a good swag. Either find a good existing building in your area to copy from or pay for the engineered drawings. There's just no short cuts.

T_Bone

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04-13-2008 20:03:28

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 12:34:36

I don't need a permit in the country around here. I don't want wood. I've built houses and already have one pole barn on the place taken over by termites. They eat treated wood too. Morton uses three 2by8 for a post with 4 of them on the corners. Then they use a regular wood truss. I still want steel.

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135 Fan

04-13-2008 20:55:07

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 20:03:28

If you build without a permit, they can and will make you take it down! What if someone came over and the impossible happened and it collapsed on them? Where do you live that you don't think you need a permit and an approved structure? Just because your in the country doesn't mean you don't have to follow the rules. Do you pay taxes? With another building, they'll want more. Need insurance? They'll want an approved structure as well. You should check with your county about all the requirements needed. I'm only trying to save you a big hassle if you build without approval. Dave

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thurlow

04-14-2008 05:50:04

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Re: steel building specs in reply to 135 Fan, 04-13-2008 20:55:07

For buildings that are not dwellings: I suppose it all depends on where one lives; around 'here', you must have a permit (10 cents per sq ft) for any structure that has a roof (decks, etc don't count). Only thing I've EVER been checked for is distance from property line and existing buildings; also been asked what the building was to be used for. County building inspector could care less how the building is designed or who builds it.

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Gun guru

04-13-2008 16:35:33

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 12:34:36

Just for kicks I would price it out in an all wood structure too, with vinyl siding (maint. free)

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Goose

04-13-2008 16:29:51

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 12:34:36

Menards, and probably other building supply companies, has a computer you can feed your dimensions, doors, etc into, and the computer will design the building and print out a material list.

I don't know if they do steel, though.

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135 Fan

04-13-2008 16:11:15

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Re: steel building specs in reply to bc, 04-13-2008 12:34:36

I think if you check, it has to be an engineered building and you will need the engineering drawings in order to get a permit to build it. That's probably some of the cost involved in a commercial steel building you buy. You can't just guess or hope it will work because someone else has something similar. Sorry for the bad news. It's not unlike building a house. You need all the permits and inspections. You can probably erect it yourself but I don't think you can design it unless an engineer approves it. Dave

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