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756puller

04-19-2008 10:26:14




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I have a 2001 ford f250 with the 5.4 engine in it I already have a k/n cold air intake on there, and was thinking about putting a chip in of some sorta along with opening up the exhaust.

My question is has anyone tried a chip and had any success at all with milage increases or didnt it do any good?




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Sam from WA

04-21-2008 08:59:37




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
About all the power chip does is burn more fuel, void the warranty, and eventually ruin the engine. It does essentially the same thing as turning up the injection pump on a diesel, gives you more fuel. But-With more fuel, you get more HEAT! I know of more than one Dodge Ram with the Cummins Diesels that have melted pistons because they were turned up. I know of some other Dodge Cummins that have been on the road since 89 and are still goin strong, they haven"t been messed with. It"s not worth the trouble and the little bit it"ll gain you for all the consequences. When I buy a truck, I"m usually after Durability.

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fixerupper

04-20-2008 15:21:26




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
Had a friend who put the free-flow air box,loud exhaust and programmer on a '02' F150 with a V8 of unknown size, and he ended up with a loud pickup that had driveability problems. It had a habit of konking out in intersections. He took it to a Ford garage and they basically told him to put the factory stuff back on, and then they would help him. Jim



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Scooby Doo vs Mothra

04-20-2008 14:12:27




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
The only people who believe in chips are those high school Harries and wanna bee truck drivers, that post on thedieselstop, (which in my opinion just happens to be the MOST STEWPID, STOOPID, STUPID, website ever invented.
They are great talkers, until they get all p!ssed off at Ford, because Ford will not cover the damages under warranty, that the chips cause.
Do you really think that some fly by night manufacturer of a power chip has the money to test the junk they sell?

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buickanddeere

04-20-2008 11:32:25




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
Haven't put chips in the ECM or VCM since 1996 when OBDII was mandated.
A programer will alow tweaking part and full throttle up/shift, down/shift rpms. Shift overlap, clutch pack line pressure. Engine timing advance, egr shut off which will improve mileage. Idle speed, fuel enrichment curves etc.
If you plan on bypassing the laws of physics, it ain't gonna happen.



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HeyPigFarmer

04-20-2008 08:07:49




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
I've got a 2001 F250 with the 5.4 and a 5 speed manual. Opening up the exhaust DID help the mileage. If you have a ford with a V10 it brings up the mileage quite significantly (My brother gained around 1.25mpg). But with my 5.4 I gained .5 to .75 mpg but I also removed the catalytic converter because Michigan does not have emissions testing. I did try a hypertech programmer to get a few more ponies, waste of time and money. Started to spark knock on anything except premium (even though it said it would work with regular 87 octane) and mileage dropped down to around 8mpg. Took it to the dealer to get the computer "Reflashed" or basically put the stock program back in because I didn't trust that little hand held thing to do it, back to the way it used to be.

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oldrustycars

04-19-2008 20:26:20




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
I put a Jet chip in my 1993 Chevy pickup with mild mods, I don't feel any difference, except it raised full throttle shift points about 200 RPM. Fuel mileage remained the same. Anyone I know got the same results with a chip in a gas engine. Diesels are a different story, the chip helps there.



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dave guest

04-19-2008 18:56:06




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
Chips on gas engine cost you gas.



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dave guest

04-19-2008 18:56:00




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
Chips on gas engine cost you gas.



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dave guest

04-19-2008 18:55:49




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
Chips on gas engine cost you gas.



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CNKS

04-19-2008 12:48:29




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 Re: power chips in reply to 756puller, 04-19-2008 10:26:14  
Doubtful, mostly money making for the companies that sell them. Opening up the exhaust won't do anything except produce noise unless you modify the head/cam curve and use headers. Modern engines are set up for optimum performance and economy, best to leave alone. Diesels may be the exception to that.



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