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*** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! ***

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Trailerless

01-23-1999 20:07:20




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Would appreciate any advice from any aged wise men concerning, "What size of trailor for hauling tractors and implements?"

Info:
I do NOT have a CDL. Have very little $$$. ($ on trailer = Less $ on tractor)
Will pull trailer with Chevy 350 engine, 3/4 ton pick-up. (It is literally older than I am)
Will be in mountains quite a bit, and may travel many miles.
Will use trailer to haul cars, pick ups, Tractors, implements, etc.

What I'm considering:

Option 1:
Found a trailer, 16 foot, steel, tandem wheels, bumper hitch (pull it on bumper), has brakes, 80 inches wide. Problem is that it seems a bit high off of the ground, no winch, (But maybe the wife would ride on top? I'll deny saying that.) and is $1500.

Option 2:
Is to buy a welder and start building one. But I don't think that I'll save all that much $$$.

What do you think?:
Would appreciate any insight from those who have gone down this road before. Thanks in advance for the input.

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Tecumseh

03-17-1999 17:28:15




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 Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Trailerless, 01-23-1999 20:07:20  
build it yourself. i've built a few and sold them and made good money. it's not hard if you know how to weld. surplus junk stores sometimes carry the parts you will need cheap.,



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dale letcher

02-10-1999 18:17:10




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 Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Trailerless, 01-23-1999 20:07:20  
do not do it!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!! with anykind of bumper hitch!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! chev. of any kind good luck



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big fred

01-25-1999 08:57:50




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 Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Trailerless, 01-23-1999 20:07:20  
I use option 3. Get a good reciever type hitch for your 3/4 ton truck and rent a trailer whenever needed. Get a car dolly for hauling cars and trucks short distances, a car trailer for hauling cars medium to long distances and an equipment trailer for heavy items like tractors. Let the rental yard do the maintenance. Works well if you have only occasional need for a trailer, like once or twice a year. Just make sure that you get a trailer that is heavy enough for the job.

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Mike S

01-24-1999 10:20:28




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 Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Trailerless, 01-23-1999 20:07:20  
I'll second the comment about the class 3 frame hitch. much stronger and you can get different ball mounts for different loads or trailers. I even have a pintel hook one just in case I find that old military trailer I been looking for. Check the want ads and used equipment sale books. Sometimes you can find a good trailer for little money, if you're willing to wait. I traded a day's tractor work for the one I got, and, at the time, I wasn't that good with one. As for making one, my neighor made one from a Moody boat trailer. It carried a 24' cruiser, so it was stout and after he fixed it up with a bed and ramps, he figured he had about 800 in it.
Good luck

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DY

01-24-1999 17:28:08




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 Re: Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Mike S, 01-24-1999 10:20:28  
What kind of military trailer are you looking for?

Where are you at? I saw one in a salvage yard the other day when I was looking for parts. About the size for a 3/4 ton pickup. Maybe 16" tires maybe 20", I didn't pay much attention.



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DY

01-24-1999 17:27:56




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 Re: Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Mike S, 01-24-1999 10:20:28  
What kind of military trailer are you looking for?

Where are you at? I saw one in a salvage yard the other day when I was looking for parts. About the size for a 3/4 ton pickup. Maybe 16" tires maybe 20", I didn't pay much attention.



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David Davis

02-03-1999 10:09:56




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 Re: Re: Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to DY, 01-24-1999 17:27:56  
Watch classifieds,auctions(contractor,landscape,power co. ect.).You should have no problem with 2x but 3x would be a bit much.To build from scrach with new axels and steel, nice deck and equipment hauling tires(Goodyear 12Pr)8 by 14 to keep deck height down(under sling springs) will run $2500.Witch ever way brake both axels and install breakaway system(state law). I would go with the pental hitch.

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Paul Fox

01-24-1999 06:36:21




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 Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Trailerless, 01-23-1999 20:07:20  
I'd go with Option 1 with the following modifications:

Get a Class III Frame Mount hitch, I'd never haul anything bigger than a wheelbarrow with a bumper mount.

Get a Quick Mount winch. These are designed to mount into a standard 2" Reese Hitch receiver. I welded a receiver on the tongue of my trailer and ran a quick-detach cable out the back of my truck. Wicked handy for winching things up on the trailer. Ramsay makes a nice one, 4500 pounds straight line pull for about $450. It also mounts to my hitch reciever on the back of the truck, and I welded another one to the plow gear on the front of my truck. Very versatile, worth every penny.

Get or build a decent set of ramps. If the ramps need to be very long (say, over 6 feet) to keep the approach angle reasonable, put "feet" in the middle to avoid excessive ramp flex.

Put jacks or stabilizers on the rear of the trailer to keep it from squatting when loading heavy gear.

I can email you pictures of the suggested mods if you need more detail.

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Martin A. Johnson

01-24-1999 14:25:23




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 Re: Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Paul Fox, 01-24-1999 06:36:21  
Spend the little extra money & get a class IV (4) hitch. It is much better, & if you should ever be in an accident, It most likley won't break, & is heavy enought that if sued, you but is covered. If you don't have heavy enough eqt. you can be sued laibl for improper eqt!! something to keep in mind.
I think the extra money for a 5th wheel hitch is better yet! I have a 26' 5 th wheel trail w/ 3 axles, good for 21,000 on the trailer alone. I pull with a 74 chev 1 ton w/ 454, or my dodge 3/4 w/ cummins diesel, I have a 10,000 lb winch mounted on it. If you do any amount of trailering, the 5th whell is worth it, handles much better, distributes weight evenly, so you don't blind everyone you meet with you headlights, controlls all around better, backs easier, etc. However, you will need a class "A" CDL to pull ANY TRAILER over 10,000 lbs!!!!! federal law! so far this has not been enforced well, but I hear they plan to start soon, mabey in a year or so. just a thought - MAJ

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Jarrod

02-04-1999 19:13:17




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 Re: Re: Re: *** Need Advice about Trailer for hauling? ... Could it be tractors!! *** in reply to Martin A. Johnson, 01-24-1999 14:25:23  

Don't know where martin got his info but Kansas drivers handbook says no need for cdl untill 26,001 lbs.

option 1; Rent but it's always a pain

option 2; Buy hope you find what you want

option 3; Build. Thats what we did. 20 foot two heavy duty 6,000 lbs axles. yes there is a difference between 6,000 and heavy duty 6,000. Brakes on both axles, 16.5'' tires-3150 load range e, tilt bed yes tilt bed with removable fenders to gain us a few more inches in case we have a little to wide of load to go between. wood floor. bumper pull but real easy to convert when time. Pull with my van 77 ford 3/4 ton 460 4x4. Trailer weighs 2,850 put model D and Model A John Deere on at the same time. weigh about 19,000 fully loaded. Have 2,300 invested plus time. won't find another one like it. And not just saying that. Got what I want and am not dissappointed one bit. So it's up to you how much do you want to put in and how much do you expect out?

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