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10-18-1999 07:11:18




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I'm borrowing a friends portable 240 volt compressor and need to make an extension cable for it. I plan on using the dryer outlet and have a male plug for it.I am using 10-2 UFB wire. the female socket at the compressor end can only accomodate 10-2 wire. My basic question is; do I put the black and white wires on the lower blades and the bare wire to the upper blade? I have never been real keen on wiring and electricity.

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Dave

11-09-2003 13:39:13




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 Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Novice, 10-18-1999 07:11:18  
I'm getting ready to wire a new water heater in a barn and a 20amp, 240v outlet for a compressor. The 240v breakers are installed in the panel, and I have 8/3 wiring to the boxes. My question is: what do I do with the neutral wire? It's connected to the ground bar in the breaker box. Do I simply ignore it at the outlet, and use the black and red hot wires with the bare ground, or do I strap the neutral to the ground? Any help appreciated!

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d. e. lynch

12-22-2004 23:17:40




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 Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Dave, 11-09-2003 13:39:13  
I need the same info As Dave {Nov. 09 2003}.--Don



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Neal

10-18-1999 07:52:59




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 Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Novice, 10-18-1999 07:11:18  
An electrition friend of mine once told me that 240v and above the ground can be eliminated because the neutral acts as the ground. Use an ohm meter to find out which is ground but be sure to turn off the power or you could damage your meter.



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werf

10-18-1999 07:34:32




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 Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Novice, 10-18-1999 07:11:18  
I'm pretty sure that you need to use 3-wire for this, black and red are your two legs of power (120V each),White is neutral, and the bare is the ground. If it is a portable compressor, some times they are wired for 120V (standard household current). Many motors are made to be wired both ways. Check with your friend.It also helps to have a friend that is an electrician. One way to find out the way to wire the plug for an outlet is to take the cover off the outlet (turn power off first)and see how the wires are connected to it. Good luck and be careful.

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Kim Hartshorn

10-18-1999 08:29:59




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 Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to werf, 10-18-1999 07:34:32  
Please get a book. Electricity is very easy but it is fairly unforgiving.

In 240volt hookups to dryers and such THERE IS NO NEUTRAL. When normal two wire + ground is used both the white and black are hot. The ground wire, either bare or green, goes to the ground lug. It is very important that ground go to ground :-)

The easiest way to identify the ground pin is to look for the longest pin on the male side. Connectors are made this way so that the ground makes contact first (to complete a possible short circuit in a controlled fashion through the fuse or breaker as soon as a hot makes contact) 240 Volt hookups are called 240 single phase. Both hot legs come from opposite sides of center tap transformer on the power pole. There are three phases comming down most transmission lines. Industrial applications and many farms will have 3 phase service, all 3 phases + neutral will enter at the service entrance. Any phase to neutral will result in 120 Volt tap, Any two phases together will result in 208V (not 240)

Domestic Services are usually single phase with two hot legs. One leg feeds each side of the standard fuse box or breaker panel. A 240 volt circuit uses a breaker that jumps both bus bars, those the double switch.

You should, to conform to standard practice, wrap the end of a white insulated wire that is being used as a hot leg with black or red electrical tape to indicate to the next person who takes the connection apart that the white wire is hot and not neutral.

Good Luck
Be Careful
Work with one hand in your pocket!

Kim

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208?

10-19-1999 18:23:27




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 Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Kim Hartshorn, 10-18-1999 08:29:59  
WE DEAL WITH 480 3PHASE IN THE PLANT AND GET 237+VOLTS ON EACH PHASE TO GROUND AND 480 ACROSS ANY TWO LEGS.WE CAN GET 120 SINGLE OR 220 SINGLE PHASE FROM THREE PHASE WITH A TRANSFORMER. YOU CAN USE WHITE AS ONE SIDE OF 220V AND BLACK AS THE OTHER SIDE OFF 220 V. BARE TO GROUND. THIS IS NOT CODE APPROVED.DOWN HERE YOU YOU NEED 3 CONDUCTOR WITH GROUND FOR DRYER.RED HOT;BLACK HOT;WHITE, NEUTRAL TO PANEL AND BARE TO EQUIPMENT GROUND.

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dave

07-24-2000 15:56:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to 208?, 10-19-1999 18:23:27  
i desperately need to convert 3 phase 440v to 240v
could someone please let me know if using a transformer is the only way
thanks a million ne info would be appreciated



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B.HALL

02-23-2000 11:06:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to 208?, 10-19-1999 18:23:27  
HOW CAN YOU HOOK UP 277 VOLT FLORSENT LIGHT USING 480V 3 PHASE? DO YOU NEED A STEP DOWN TRANSFOMER OR CAN YOU GET 480V LIGHTS.



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kwkm

09-02-2000 20:09:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to B.HALL, 02-23-2000 11:06:38  
480 three phase can be used to run 277 lites. you have three phases and a neutral and a ground.
across any two phases you get 480. across the neutral and any one of the phases you get 277.



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Dave

11-18-1999 10:12:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to 208?, 10-19-1999 18:23:27  
Your 208 / 240 is dependent upon using wye or delta transformers. 240 is hard to find in rural areas. 208 is pretty much becoming the standard due to its heavy use in other countries.



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KRIS JOECKEL

03-31-2000 09:11:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Dave, 11-18-1999 10:12:36  
I need to wire an air compresor in my garage ,it is 240v plug in ,need to wire outlet ,what type of wire and circuit breaker do I use?



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Kim Hartshorn

10-19-1999 19:21:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to 208?, 10-19-1999 18:23:27  
What's happening I think is that your plant puts center tap transformers on each leg of the 480 three phase...give you two opposed legs of about 240 on each phase...which can be stepped down to 120. The funny 208 comes from tapping across two phases that are generated 120 degrees apart so that when one of the phases is at 120 volts the other phase is only at -88 volts (due to some sort of trig equation involving sine waves *shrug*) to make up the 208 voltage differential.

Three phase distribution, not to mention three phase equipment, is quite confusing. Especially the first time you see that blue wire.

(Three hot legs in three phase are usually black, red, blue)

I like talking about electricity...hope I am not talking too much :-)

Kim

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Dave Fullmer(TN)

10-20-1999 20:01:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Kim Hartshorn, 10-19-1999 19:21:42  
In our plant the color convention is to reserve red, black, and blue for the 110 circuits and we use orange, yellow and brown for any 3 phase circuits either 240 or 480 V. This keeps us straight when we go looking for a place to connect new machinery. We also found out at our new church that we would have had to buy special ranges and water heaters to utilize the 208 available. We had the power company feed us 3 phase 240 to operate our ACs. Fortunately, I talked the board into going with gas water heaters and ranges and saved considerable size of wires that I had to pull from the opposite end of the building.

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tez

12-23-2000 14:52:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Dave Fullmer(TN), 10-20-1999 20:01:33  
I am looking for info on 480 Volt wiring!? I am wiring a 240/480V stepper transformer and need a little assistance if possible!
Thanks in advance



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Jim WI

10-20-1999 10:54:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 240 volt wiring in reply to Kim Hartshorn, 10-19-1999 19:21:42  
Most of the three phase wiring I've seen (most of which is less than 10 years old) is black, red and white. That wiring usually includes a green insulated ground conductor. I've only occassionally seen blue wiring used.

And you're right, the whole subject is a confusing at first until you've learned a little more about it.



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