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International Harvester ELECTRALL

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Charlie Chapman

01-15-1999 10:07:04




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Does anyone have any information on an IH generator called an ELECTRALL? I was told that IH was experimenting with electric-driven implements in the late 40s/early 50s. The generator I have has the following info on the name plate:
International Harvester Co. ELECTRALL
Model SATB256E9
3600RPM 37.5 Amp Cont.
12.5KW-208Volt 3PH 60CY
120/208Volt 1PH 60CY
Manufactured by General Electric

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Harold H

01-16-1999 18:19:43




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 Re: International Harvester ELECTRALL in reply to Charlie Chapman, 01-15-1999 10:07:04  
Charlie,

See my posting about ad on Farmall Discussion Group.

Harold H



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farmer

01-15-1999 17:36:04




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 Re: International Harvester ELECTRALL in reply to Charlie Chapman, 01-15-1999 10:07:04  
I remember seeing that system demo'ed at the Indiana State Fair in the 50's. They had a baler hooked to the tractor (either an MTA or a 400 I believe) The generator was mounted on the right side of the tractor and driven by the belt pulley. Heavy cables ran back to the moter mounted on the baler, looking a lot like hydraulic hoses. No PTO.
That system came and went so fast I almost thought I dreamed it. :-)

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John T Electrical Engineer

01-15-1999 15:27:26




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 Re: International Harvester ELECTRALL in reply to Charlie Chapman, 01-15-1999 10:07:04  
Charlie, I cant tell you anything in particular about the generator, but from the specs you gave, I can tell you how its output is wound and what uses it can provide. It is whats called a 208 Y 120 Volt 3 Phase 4 Wire Output. It should have 3 phase wires out and one neutral. The voltage from any of the three phase wire outputs to neutral is 120 single phase. The voltage between any two of the phase wire outputs is 208 single phase. The voltage of all three phase wire outputs is 208 3 phase which would run a 208 volt 3 phase motor or heater etc. So, it can run three legs of 120 volt single phase loads and also some single or three phase 208 volt motors. Now, your house current is 120/240 volt single phase three wire. It has two legs of 120 to neutral and one leg of 240 single phase between the two hot wires. Many loads designed for 240 will run okay at 208 but you have to know more about the specs and load if youre gonna try and run a heavy continuous 240 object at the reduced 208 because they will draw more current. Hope thats some help. If you want to use it as an emergency generator on a 120/240 single phase panel like at home, you could only use two legs and they would be 120 fine but the other loads designed for 240 like air conditioners, heat pumps, compressors MAY or MAY NOT be okay but for light non continuous use it will probably suffice. Heating devices like hot water heaters would be okay on 208 versus 240. John T Old Engineer in Indiana jmn50@msn.com

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Ben Stow

09-28-2003 20:06:43




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 Re: Re: International Harvester ELECTRALL in reply to John T Electrical Engineer, 01-15-1999 15:27:26  
I have one of the IH Electrall Generators that I spin with a Farmall Super A. It works fine for home standby use. I just used it during Hurricane Isabel. I live in Southeastern VA. I ran it about 8 to 10 hours a day for a week. My water pump and air conditioner are both 240 volts but functioned fine on 208. I have the controls set for about 123 on the 120 legs so it puts out about 210 to 215 on the 208 side.

The reason for my follow up is does anyone know where I can find a Manual for it.

Ben

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