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Tony

05-01-2003 09:02:55




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I have a Ford diesel tractor that has been sitting in my barn for about 4 years. What precautions should I take before starting it up? Oil or anything else??I don't know a thing about diesels. Any help would be appreciated.
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Hal

05-02-2003 16:36:55




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 Re: Ford Diesel Tractor in reply to Tony, 05-01-2003 09:02:55  
I would mainly concern myself with the fuel at first, if it had any water in it or got some mold-like bacteria growing. Drain all the fuel out of the tank,fill with a few gallons of fresh fuel, change the fuel filter(s) and give it a go. If you want you could crank it a little with the engine shutoff to get some oil flowing and splashing. Have the batteries fully charged and if it has a heater plug it in for 2 hours. If you start messing with the injectors you will have to bleed the system. I wouldn't add any oil to a diesel's cylinders, but that is just my opinion. If it doesn't start or run ok, then you can start looking at other things like injectors, pump, compression etc.

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PKurilecz

05-01-2003 10:02:07




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 Re: Ford Diesel Tractor in reply to Tony, 05-01-2003 09:02:55  
Good Luck!! ;-(,)

Seriously .....

1) Drain all fluids and replace.

2) See if you can prelube the oil system; i.e., flush oil somehow to make sure that the bearings have fresh oil.

3) Remove the injectors and place about a teaspoon of oil into each cylinder, others may disagree, but I prefer Marvel Mystery Oil for this

4) Try to turn the engine over by hand, through several revolutions to make sure that nothing is stuck or binding, especially stuck open valves. You can remove the valve cover to check valve movement when you hand turn the engine.

5) If the engine is stuck, maybe you can get lucky by soaking the cylinders with MMO or another type of oil.

6) Check to make sure that the injector pump is working.

7) If you are lucky enough to be able to crank it, don't crank for an extended period of time, or you may burn out the starter. I'd suggest cranking for about 15 to 20 seconds and then wait a minute to let the starter cool down.

8) Keep a fire extinguisher handy, better to have it and not need it than ....., I'd suggest at least one rated at 40BC

Good luck ... hope this helps.

PKurilecz

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Jim.UT

05-01-2003 13:00:04




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 Re: Re: Ford Diesel Tractor in reply to PKurilecz, 05-01-2003 10:02:07  
I've never owned a diesel so I don't know, but doesn't the higher compression make turning it by hand rather difficult?



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tstrong

01-07-2004 15:00:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Ford Diesel Tractor in reply to Jim.UT, 05-01-2003 13:00:04  
Not sure how to enter a new post, so here goes:

I've got a Ford 601 Diesel (1962?), and it's at a fairly honest shop for diagnosis.

They took a compression check, and it's 118,120,118,116 (psi)

The book that I have says 365-400 psi.

But the mechanic says that 365 psi is rated at 1000 rpm, and you can only crank at about 300 rpm.

I believe the compression check should show 365 if you crank it for maybe 15 seconds or so.

What do you think? I haven't asked the mechanic to inject some oil into the cylinder to see what that does.

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Pkurilecz

05-01-2003 14:15:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Ford Diesel Tractor in reply to Jim.UT, 05-01-2003 13:00:04  
Easy....

Just remove the glow plugs or injectors.



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Eian

05-02-2003 15:49:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford Diesel Tractor in reply to Pkurilecz, 05-01-2003 14:15:54  
Most of this stuff sounds good the only thing I would have a problem with is the oil in the cylinders. I have a diesel truck and tractor and everything I have read on doing compression tests on diesels is that under no circumstances put oil in the cylinders as the compression ratio is already 25 or 27 to 1 and it will damage the rings or top end of the engine. As for a fire it's always good to have and extinguisher but we're not talking about gasoline this is fuel oil and takes a heck of a lot to get started then just burns nice and lazy.

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Pkurilecz

05-04-2003 06:33:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford Diesel Tractor in reply to Eian, 05-02-2003 15:49:03  
The reason why I suggested putting a teaspoon of oil into the cylinders is that after sitting awhile, the cylinders are probably dry.

Cranking the engine with the injectors/glowplugs out will blow most of the oil back out.

My thoughts are that a minimal amount of lube will help to prevent the rings and cylinder walls from being ruined.

Over the years, I've been able to restart several engines using these steps that have sat for a long time.

The compression ratio on most diesel engines is between 18 and 23 to 1.

I agree with you on the fire extinguisher. For many years they just sit around, but that one time .....

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