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Check air pressure in a loaded tire???

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cmbb

08-12-2003 17:26:39




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I have never been around tractors. At work there is a tractor with loaded tires and I was wondering how you check air pressure in the calcium filled tires. Can you put the valve at the top? Thanks, I know it is a dumb question, but had to ask.




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Chris-se-ILL

08-12-2003 22:15:14




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 Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to cmbb, 08-12-2003 17:26:39  
cmbb,

The other posts are correct about the valve stem should be at the top of the rim when you check the pressure. And I would suggest that you use one of those "sliding" style gauges {used for large trucks} too.....

However, the other fine folks forgot to tell you to use the air chuck to shoot a quick burst of air into the tire (only takes a half-second of air) in order to blow any calcium chloride out of the valve stem. This will "clear" any fluid that is trapped in the valve stem, so that when you put the air gauge on the valvestem, the pressure does not blow the "C-C fluid" into the gauge!!!

We have fluid in all our tractor's rear tires and have used the same air gauge for well over 15 years without it corroding, which is caused by the salt-like properties of the fluid. We don't have to wash the gauge out or anything, because we clear the fluid out of the stem before checking the pressure!!!

BTW, On duals, we always try to put the outside dual wheels on the tractor with the valvestems aligned with the inside wheel valvestems. This saves having to move the tractor 4 times to get each valvestem on top-center.

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Shane

08-13-2003 05:46:22




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 Re: Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to Chris-se-ILL, 08-12-2003 22:15:14  
From your post it sounds like you load the duals too. I didn't think you were supposed to load them. If you do have you ever had any problems with doing it such as busted lugs or t-rails?



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Chris-se-ILL

08-13-2003 07:03:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to Shane, 08-13-2003 05:46:22  
Quote from Shane: "From your post it sounds like you load the duals too. I didn't think you were supposed to load them. If you do have you ever had any problems with doing it such as busted lugs or t-rails?"

I too have heard that you should not load the duals with fluid... yet these same people will load them with cast weights! I have run fluid in my duals for a few decades and have not had any adverse affect at all from it. I am still using the radial tires that we bought in the mid'80's and the lugs are fine (I don't do a lot of highway/roading of the tractors). They show weather/sun/age cracks, but no odd/abnormal wear! We run radials on all the larger equipment (those are the ones with duals). We usually load the inside tires to about 2/3rds full of fluid and the outside tires about 1/3rd to 1/2 full! One tractor {IH-1566} we also put about #300 of cast weights on each of the inside tires. That sucker has never run out of power!

As for "T-rails" and lugs... we have never had lug troubles at all. We have all our dual tires mounted on solid rims/hubs {M&W's} that bolt "directly" to the axle shafts. On our IH-1066, we started out {in '76} with bias-style tires mounted on hubless rims (bolted to the inside tire rims with long bolts). There was no fluid in them at that time (and no weights added). It was no time at all (only a few years) before we tore out the keyway and ruined the centers of the original inside hubs!!! I will never mount ANY dual-tire to the rim of the inside tire... ever! It is just too expensive in the long run! Those rear tires just have too much torque/leverage to be held out there that far with a single hub!

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Shane

08-13-2003 16:22:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tir in reply to Chris-se-ILL, 08-13-2003 07:03:08  
Well... just proves the point that ya learn something new everyday. We have been no-till for years and only have 3 tractors with loaded tires and only use the duals on 2. Have a good day, Shane.



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Jon H

08-12-2003 21:10:42




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 Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to cmbb, 08-12-2003 17:26:39  
You can get guages at most farm supply stores that will not be harmed by corrosive cal cloride solution.



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thurlow

08-13-2003 05:58:23




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 Re: Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to Jon H, 08-12-2003 21:10:42  
You're right, of course; just buy the right gauge and check the pressure, no matter the valve stem position..... unless you break it or run over it, a good gauge will last indefinitely....



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John A

08-12-2003 19:08:42




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 Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to cmbb, 08-12-2003 17:26:39  
cmbb, First go buy a spring loaded air gauge. It will automaticly return to 0 when you take it off the valve.
Drive the tractor forward or reverse to get the valve to the T.D.C. position. then check the air pressure as usual. On my ol M I run 18 lbs on full loaded tires with 2 sets of cast wt.
If you can't get a spring loaded guage use a regular one, when you get finished , immerse in clean water moveing the center porition back and forth like a syringe to draw water into it then expelling it. Turn upside down in the sun till dry. Will help it to last longer. In time it will fail also. But gauges are cheap even if you get one/yr.
Hope this helps,
John A.

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Nebraska Cowman

08-12-2003 18:15:20




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 Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to cmbb, 08-12-2003 17:26:39  
I never use a gauge on fluid filled tires. It don't matter how you do it . It will ruin the gauge. Of course you can just buy a new gauge every year or two.



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Don LC

08-12-2003 17:38:29




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 Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to cmbb, 08-12-2003 17:26:39  
You got it..... ..



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cmbb

08-13-2003 02:37:16




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 Re: Re: Check air pressure in a loaded tire??? in reply to Don LC, 08-12-2003 17:38:29  
Thanks guys!!



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