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DaveH

09-24-2003 08:30:46

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The radiator on my 285 Ferguson is leaking and I need to finish up with my hay before I pull it. I've read the past posts on different things to try (pepper, ginger, etc.) my leak is somewhere high up in the radiator I think. Can anyone give me some recommendations? I just need to make it through about the next three weeks, then I can pull it and take it to the radiator shop.

I only have problems with it running hot when I run the disc mower, it doesn't give me any problems otherwise. ( I carry a couple of gallons of water in the cab and add it when the temperature starts getting close to 200)

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Tom

09-25-2003 06:56:06

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

Recommend: Do not use any stop-leak products. You can permanently and seriously damage your deisel with that stuff. Premix some water-antifreze at 50/50 and keep the radiator filled. Don't wait for it to overheat. Check it often and keep it from overheating. Get the radiator off and have a shop fix it as soon as possible.

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Dave in GA

09-25-2003 05:02:39

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

The product that has worked best for me has been Aluma-Seal. It's always sealed leaks well and the seals last. I don't recommend Bars Stop Leak pellets though. It stops leaks, but I had to put some into an Olds Toronado engine once to seal an intake manifold leak. It sealed the leak, but the engine developed an overheating problem. When I tried to drain the radiator, no fluid would come out of the petcock. After removing the radiator, I discovered that the petcock was clogged with gunk (Bars) and the lower radiator tubes were also clogged with the pellet material. The radiator was fairly new.

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I Like Case

09-24-2003 22:56:40

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

I would recommend BG brand stop leak for a temporary fix. It does a great job of stopping small leaks and flushes out easily with clear water when you are ready to make the permanent repair. Your radiator shop will still like you:)

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SHANNON

09-24-2003 23:53:20

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Re: Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to I Like Case, 09-24-2003 22:56:40

any auto stores should have radiator stop leak bottle.. those stuff works great.. get one with aluminum metallized liquid...went to autozone and brought $2.99 and dumped in that peice of junk car and it competely stopped all those leaks... that was about a year ago and still hasnt leaked yet!

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09-24-2003 18:29:31

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

This might not help in your case. We had a Dodge crew cab we used to take into the woods on our logging operation. We poked a two inch hole just about center in the core. We forced bondo through the fins covering the area. It lasted for fifteen years.

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Duke(WNY)

09-24-2003 17:00:08

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

If you can find the leak and get at it, try some J-B Weld. Put a "temporary" patch on my Allis 10 years ago and it's still holding.

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DaveWis

09-24-2003 16:00:22

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

We use 2 part epoxy on our race car radiators as a permanent fix. We have not had a repair leak yet and we run up to 28 psi pressure in the cooling system.

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RayP(MI)

09-24-2003 14:42:18

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

My favorite is aluma-seal. Is a small package of finely powdered aluminum. Has worked for me several times. Have also had good luck with NAPA's heavy duty radioator leak sealer.

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Bill

09-24-2003 14:06:59

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

Dave
I am not familiar with your 285 Ferguson tractor but if its a diesel dont mess around with it you could ruin your liners because of diluted antifreeze without the proper additives to prevent electrolysis and cavitation and whatever, if you work it hard it will put pin holes in the liners or the waterjacket it is not worth it

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Bob-Wyo

09-24-2003 10:34:49

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

Dave I have stopped a lot of leaks with nothing but black pepper, and not just seeps.
Drain radiator down below the leak and dump in a good handfull of pepper, try to get it over or above the leak part as much as possable, then refill and run it.
Hope this will help keep you going.
bob

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RAB

09-24-2003 09:50:10

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

The first thing to do if you are running it light is to reduce the pressure in the cooling system by undoing the rad cap just so it's not pressurising the system. Your leak will then diminish considerably. I can't guess whether it's gas or diesel, but if it's an oil burner be careful as injectors can easily get cooked if not cooled properly.
Regards, RAB

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Randy

09-24-2003 09:13:55

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

Ive had real good luck with Bars stop leak products. You can get it in pellet form or liquid form. I have used both with good results. You may have to use more then you would in a car. I think it tells you how much to use depending on capacity. I have stopped radiator leaks with Bars and then never had them leak again for years and years.

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Ludwig

09-24-2003 11:07:17

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Re: Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to Randy, 09-24-2003 09:13:55

I've never had Bars Leaks stop a leak, and twice now I've had it sieze thermostats, in one case ruining the headgasket on a Mercedes car.

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Nolan

09-24-2003 17:15:23

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Re: Re: Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to Ludwig, 09-24-2003 11:07:17

Seeing as how BarsLeak is nothing more than wood fibers and water pump oil I really find it hard to believe it seized a thermostat and impossible to believe it ruined a head gasket

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Ludwig

09-25-2003 14:45:22

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to Nolan, 09-24-2003 17:15:23

Hmm, Stops leaks then maybe? The one I used was a sort of metalic powder stuff.
No matter how hard you find it to believe I figure I put in some of that, in a couple days the thermostat siezes, and I see this repeated on several different cars, then its the stuff that does it.
The headgasket got ruined because when the thermostat siezed the car overheated...

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Jerry

09-25-2003 04:48:01

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to Nolan, 09-24-2003 17:15:23

Any sealant put into the radiator can clog up the heater cores if the tractor or car has one.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-24-2003 09:03:51

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Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to DaveH, 09-24-2003 08:30:46

I'm not real sure that I want to admitt to this, but a long time ago, when I was racing dirt bikes, I busted a radiator on a water-cooled two stroke bike, on the day before a big national, that I was wanting to run.The bike shop ordered one for me, but it was going to take 4 or 5 days. Being young, and not too bright, I took Liquid Nails, yes, Liquid Nails, and built a small amount around the leak. I first dried it with a blow drier, then let it set overnight to harden. Not only did it get me through the race, but a friend bought the bike at the end of the season, and STILL has it, glue ball and all. DISCLAIMER: I'm not recomending this idea, only recalling my "youthfull enthusiasm". If you are planning on fixing it right, this might just make matters worse. If you elect to follow my bad idea, you're on your own. Good luck, John

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RB/CT

09-24-2003 10:58:16

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Re: Re: Temporary Radiator fix in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-24-2003 09:03:51

My vote for Bars Stop Leak, Pellet Form. Also as said loosen the cap or if you can buy a lower pressure 7lb cap.

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