TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Farmall & International Ferguson Ford & New Holland John Deere Massey Ferguson Massey Harris Minneapolis Moline Oliver & Cockshutt Kubota / Yanmar

TRACTOR MANUALS

Allis Chalmers	Case	Farmall IH	Ford 8N,9N,2N	Ford
Ferguson	John Deere	Massey Ferguson	Minn. Moline	Oliver

Tractor Talk Discussion Forum

Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again!

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register

Author

Craig

11-02-2003 11:46:11

Report to Moderator

I posted a message here a couple of weeks ago about an experience I had with a scalper advertising tractors on this site and not being very truthful about descriptions of the tractor. Some of you wanted his name and I refused to do that at that time thinking the next time perhaps he would be more accurate. Well I see where he has changed the ad slightly but I gurantee you folks the tractor is NOT an expo tractor. Apparently he has never been to an expo. Paint on everything but the hood is hideous, huge pieces of paint missing around flywheel and drawbar, paint wrinkled all around carb from gas leakage, steering wheel is ugly, steering rod bushing is gone, just to mention a few things that an expo tractor wouldn't have wrong. No way is it worth half of what he is asking--save yourself a phone call. Photo ad number 50054. Go ahead and disagree with me and bash the word EXPO---I don't care. That's why they call this a discussion forum.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

novice

11-15-2003 01:45:53

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Since they posted a photo add to begin with and have internet access, it's best to ask for more pictures of different parts/angles of the tractor. You still can't hear the engine or transmission or drive it unless you go see it but it's at least some more data to help you decide. One group selling on this site even has video clips of the running tractor for people to download to help them get an idea of what the engine sound like.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Soooooo funny

11-04-2003 10:44:31

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Just look at the ad #50201 Cockshutt 30.

It looks like the poor old thing has been pulled behind the barn and the guy dumped some grass for the time to take the picture.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Deas Plant.

11-04-2003 00:18:24

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Hi, Folks. Unless I miss my guess there is an example of misrepresentation in the photo ads right here on YT.

Late Cat D2, posted 11-2-03. No serial number given. The machine in the photo has the fuel tank on the left fender. To the best of my knowledge, all the later models had the seat tank set-up.

I am not an expert on dates of manufacture of the various Cat models. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

11-03-2003 13:29:19

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

When the internet made it possible to see a tractor and buy it from afar, I bit once..... the tractor I bought and paid for that "ran good" was stuck when I got there to take it home. I got my money back under protest but the seller would have rather had his a55 than my money and I was just before tearing his a55 off. Well, I made the mistake ONCE but it won't happen again ever. If I cannot see it, run it and drive it, I aint even gonna consider making an offer. I can gamble in Shreveport if I want but I don't. I sure aint gonna gamble on a 50 year old machine that I know nothing about its past maintenence and treatment. BUYER BEWARE is an understatement. Sure I look in the classifieds to see what is selling, what price asked etc but I aint buying. This guy may be a crook but he is fishing in a pond where there seems to be many who may buy from across the country sight unseen. the odds are in his favor. Wise up and stop letting these guys take make money. If it looks too good to be true..... ..... ..IT IS.

On another note the guys that try to make big bucks on parts are equally disgusting. I ran a want ad for a part a year ago and I had many replies from guys that had the part for outrageous prices, no kidding 200-400 dollars. I got lucky however. A guy in KS (an individual) emailed me that he had scrapped his tractor and he offered me this part for 20 bucks and he was willing to mail it and trusted me to pay him. He mailed it and it was perfect, I couldn't wait to get the money order mailed. He was happy and I was happy.

You guys out there trying to make a living on selling tractors by deception and you guys out there scalping parts because you think someone needs it bad enough are pigs. You are trying to ruin a good hobby, at the very least making it hard for the common person to maintain his hobby or tractor.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Dennis

11-03-2003 17:53:30

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again in reply to KX, 11-03-2003 13:29:19

Did you insist that the guy in KS with the part mail it to you so you could see it before you paid for it? Why did you think he should trust you when you don't seem to have any trust in anyone else? Trust is a two-way street. I don't know the fellow everyone is bashing on this thread and I suspect 99% of the posters don't either, but they sure seem to feel it is their duty to judge him. I do not think their is room for vigilante law in this hobby (but that is just my humble opinion).

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Mickey

11-03-2003 12:46:26

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

I recently sold a couple of old tractors too. I bought them to fix myself, then my partner passed away, and I lost interest. I listed them as scrap iron, ornamental quality, most likely not much else. I got a response from an interested party. He wanted more photos, x-rays, maybe an cat scan ect. Finally he agreed to buy them, but I would have to load them, and not scratch a 50,000 dollar truck and trailer. So 150.00 later a crane was on site to lift the 400.00 dollars worth of scrap I told him about not to mention the 20+ pictures. He steps from his truck and says, "Gee, can you take less, I didn't think they were this bad"

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

720Deere

11-03-2003 07:39:44

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

I sent an email to Mr. Burns stating that the photo of the "expo quality" tractor was kind of like the promo photo of the ugly girl in "A League of Their Own"(from 40 feet away). If it's that good let's see her up close!! I also stated that he should list it on ebay and then we will see what it would bring at auction. He responded simply "Go to Hell!"

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

DRL

11-03-2003 06:28:38

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Guess his name should have said it all. If you get one from him you will have "Ben Burn."

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Dan in Ore

11-03-2003 02:58:45

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

I got into a deal as a seller recently. I listed a tractor on ebay and represented it as best I could (I believe that I am a very honest and straight forward person). I put in the ad to e-mail me with any questions before bidding. The item sold, money was sent and later they came to pick it up. When they arrived there were some things they thought were not as advertized like no engine, different model than they thought and a couple of other small items. They got out a copy of the original ad and found out that it was not misrepresented. They were not unhappy because it turned out to be something they had never seen before and are going to research and find out exactly what they have.

My point here is that if you are the buyer, be sure you read everything closely and ask lots of questions. I think this could solve a lot of disputes before they happen.

If you are not 100% sure don't send the check.

My 2 cents worth.

Dan

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

John K

11-03-2003 01:56:14

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

I get so tired of people that put up with crap and not saying anything about it. They say it is the politically correct way. Stop and think why the world is such a mess, no one wants to speak up for they may affend some one. They will keep on doing, as long as no one complanes. I try to treat people the way I would want some one to treat me. If some one tries to pull one on me, I let them know.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

tom

11-02-2003 17:37:16

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

I agree, BEN BURNS seems to be not volunteer the most accurate information unless asked...once he said the pony motor ran OK, then when i asked if the tractor started with the pony, he said "no, it doesnt get enough RPM's to do that,I've been pull starting it" He should have volunteered that...I've heard of him burning people more than once..... he's starting to get a reputation!

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

jim

11-02-2003 18:13:41

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again in reply to tom, 11-02-2003 17:37:16

i recently purchased a burns tractor and was suprised to find out that a tractor that needs nothing had to be pull started. many other flaws in his stories.will not happen again.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

JD-tractor

11-02-2003 18:30:04

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go a in reply to jim, 11-02-2003 18:13:41

It really does seem that you can't believe anyone anymore,not the politicians,not the weatherman,not the clergy sometimes I can't believe what I get myself into And I think I'm honest (LOL)

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Indydirtfarmer

11-02-2003 17:35:20

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

The last time you posted on this "issue", I waited a few days before I posted my $.02. Same deal again. I'm not going to defend this guys actions. I'm not going to try to justify his sales tactics. I'm not going to bash E-Bay, and their way of doing business. What I am going to say, is "Let the buyer beware". Unless I know the person, and the specific tractor, I want to see it, drive it, and look it over REAL GOOD, before I'm spending that kind of money on anything. It would be nice if you could trust everyone, especially when it comes to money. It just isn't that way. Never was. Never will be. That doesn't mean you can't trust anyone, just that there are a few people out there, that require a cautious aproach. Wouldn't it be nice if you could depend on what people tell you? The bad thing is, that it's so common, that most of us just walk away, and never say a thing. Probably wouldn't do much good to squawk about it anyway. My best advice, just don't buy the tractor, and assume that anyone that knows the least little bit about old tractors won't either. JMHO, John

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

MikeH-Tx

11-03-2003 15:37:46

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 11-02-2003 17:35:20

Amen. I started to reply, but read all the followups first. No need to reply now, you said it right.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

JD-Tractor

11-02-2003 17:24:53

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Boy I can't believe you would badmouth a fello NY person my!my! the first thing to learn is believe none of what you hear and half of what you see and remember LET THE BUYER BEWARE

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jed

11-02-2003 17:09:21

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Everbody sort of doesn't want to say anything, but that kind of stuff goes on a lot. There is a guy from NY who runs ads a lot and he always claims to know nothing about tractors in his ads.
He does thesame on ebay and sells a lot of junk with that cover up story. Here you get a chance to go look , but on ebay you get it put to you. This guy of course has an excellent rating on ebay, because no one complains. The ones I dislike are those people who place want ads and don't have the courtesy to answer ads. They are mental morons, but they still get to waste your time. Have you ever attended an auction and paid attention to the bidders. I have seen people bid on what they brought in. The auctioneers tell them to price check their own items, because they don't want to announce holds on items. I have had it with auction around here. They haul stuff from one consignment sale to another. It is all right on the edge of illegal, but not really.
No one ever puts the finger on it though. I guess it all comes down to what you think is right.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Garry

11-03-2003 08:05:49

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again in reply to Jed, 11-02-2003 17:09:21

I agree about the people placing wanted ads for tractors. One guy was looking for three tractors and I had all three he was looking for, but he didn't even want to discuss purchasing and I had not quoted a price. Others don't return e-mails. I don't bother responding to those ads now. Parts ads may be different.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

dhs

11-02-2003 18:28:49

Report to Moderator

Re: Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again in reply to Jed, 11-02-2003 17:09:21

Would this man be from Lockport, NY ?

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jon

11-02-2003 15:02:36

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Dang it! And I was hoping to "get rich quick" by doubling my money on the 38 "G" I just bought.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Here's the Pic

11-02-2003 13:58:32

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jack in Fla

11-02-2003 13:30:51

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

And he is begging for $11,300 I would sell him mine for 1/2 of that. And I will admit to oil leaks , scratches in paint and not Expo Jack

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Les...fortunate

11-02-2003 12:51:23

Report to Moderator

Re: Misrepresenting tractors--here we go again! in reply to Craig, 11-02-2003 11:46:11

Well, if they ever have an auction at the "wright" place, I'll keep that in mind.
I notice the picture ain't exactly a closeup.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

[Options] [Printer Friendly] [Posting Help] [Return to Forum] [Log in to Reply]

TRACTOR PARTS	TRACTOR MANUALS

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home | Forums

Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy