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Tractor Restoration on TV #2

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David Bennett (

11-19-2003 16:02:15




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I am curious about how many of you watch programs on RFDTV. I would like to know what your opinions are with regard to the Classic Tractor programs. I am also curious to know what car/truck/bike programs you watch; what you like or don't and what new ideas you have for a similar show about tractors. If you don't watch any car shows, there are some on DIY, SpikeTV, Discover, and SpeedTV. Thanks very much to everyone who took time to respond to the first thread re the "show". dave

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kwright

11-20-2003 16:47:22




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I pretty much agree with "Les...fortunate".

I really do enjoy the Classic Tractor shows, though until recently they had been repeating a bit too often. This fall, it's clear new material has been added to the rotation, especially Canadian material, which has helped respark my interest. Rather, I really never lost interest but have been dissapointed when I found tonight's show was a repeat from a few weeks ago. I usually still watch, though (unless it's a parade or pulling).

The Tractor Calendar and equipment and collection profiles are my personal favorites... the parades and pulling are OK for a few minutes but become, ah, shall we say, repetitive.

Personally, I think a good, honest, tractor restoration project that is done on a common brand/model, using tools, techniques and equipment, within a budget the common person might reasonaly have available would be great addition.

Please though, DON'T follow the model of "This Old House" and do projects that are way beyond the average person's budget, skills or ability to duplicate. I simply wouldn't watch a pipe-dream like this.

Note I'm also into vintage motorcycles, but I'm practial enough to realize this is relatively narrow interest-segment so I won't bother to suggest pursuing this arena (though it'd be great).

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Paul Butler

11-20-2003 10:30:45




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I like the old shows but they get repetitive.

What I would REALLY like to see is a tractor and/or combine REPAIR/MAINTENANCE show.

Maybe work on stuff everywhere between the late 50's and 90's. Stuff that a lot of farmers are still running in the field today. Show me how to do the stuff the dealer charges and arm and a leg for. Be brand agnostic and do one brand one week and another the next.

Tractor things like: Hydraulic pump replacement Rebuilding a turbocharger How to put fluid in/take fluid out of tires Combine Things like: Changing cylinder bars Major bearing replacements Clean grain auger replacement etc.

Maybe in the late summer/early fall you could do shows about how to properly setup your combine and in the spring shows about tuning up a planter or calibrating a sprayer, etc.

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Kirk

11-20-2003 09:55:15




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
Could this show be put on a Channel that all DSS company's have on their list of available Channels?



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Garry

11-20-2003 08:22:32




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
The tractor shows on RFDTV were getting old but recently they have included many new ones from around the country. Even saw one from Senatobia, Mississippi the other night. I agree with most that a tractor restoration or fix-it show would be good using basic tools only. Throw in some hisory of the tractor and the manufacturer (kind of like this old house where Bob takes you on a tour)and you have a good show. Hope to see it on soon.

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rustyfarmall

11-20-2003 06:59:38




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I have the dish network, and was very excited at first to watch the classic tractors show, now, I rarely bother to tune in, it is either a show I have already seen, or the tractor shows have been pre-empted by the livestock auction, even though the on-screen menu lists classic tractors.
Also, way too many shows dealing with horses, I realize the horse people like these shows, but why can't we tractor nuts have equal time?
O.K., enough ranting, I like the idea of a restoration show, in fact, I had been thinking of contacting RFD TV, and suggesting this very thing. I also like to watch tractor pulling, the antique and classics are my favorite, but I like to see the big boys with the big toys too.
One more idea here, how about filming some of the local tractor clubs when they hold their plowing bees? You will usually see just about every color of tractor made, and would be interesting to many people.

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Fred OH

11-20-2003 06:48:36




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
Why don't you ask the owner of this website if she would be interested in it. Can't think of a better name for it than Yesterdays Tractors. She surely is a master at setting up and running this site. Wouldn't all of us like to see her on tv? Fred OH



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MapleStone

11-20-2003 06:39:00




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I'm In Ontario Canada and don't have access to RFD but I do like some of the car shows on Speed, Spike and Discovery. Haven't watched many lately but I used to like Shadetree before it became Two Guys. Two Guys is too commercial.

I think you could have a good show if you follow what some of the suggestions you have recieved here.

Some of the key suggestions I see are;

- Use common tools - take each step slow and describe the steps and possible set backs
- Show retreiving parts form junk yards
- Discuss manufacturing parts
- Try and find a happy medium between show tractor and work tractor. (Not a trailer queen but still looks good enough to show)

You could even include a segment dedicated to "veiwers Pride" where you show a viewers tractor and discuss some ofthe work that he did.

Hope this is helping you and not just flooding you with too many ideas.

Remember you can't please everybody.

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Mike M

11-20-2003 06:04:24




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I don't like the way the woodworking shows I see have gone. One guy's way of doing it with the best equipment known to mankind,edited start to finish in half an hour. Maybe could look in on a couple of differant shops working on similar projects. Maybe even an episode like junk wars where the kids go into two groups and build something up from a pile of junk. I've done this before.Ha Ha! Just go around to everyones house here on this site and see what kind of stuff were up to ?

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Brian in Ohio

11-20-2003 05:28:23




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I, personally, do not have a satellite dish, so i don't get to see RFDTV, but my Father does, and he loves the Classic Tractor programs... I try to stop in when it's on. Very Good program.

Going along with what Dana said earlier, I think that if you do a restoration program, I think you need to base it on a "shade tree restorers" perspective. Have your project tractors be one that you would have to go find used parts for, or find substitues for. Give the project a budget, and have it in a setting other than a immaculate workshop chocked full of tools. I think you would gain a much bigger audience that way. Something that everyone can relate to. You may do segments on making your own gaskets, different methods for repairing stuck pistons, etc. I'm excited to see this program when it comes out.

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Greywolf

11-20-2003 05:13:52




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I'm gonna put a bit of a different twist to things here.

A resto show would be great if it could take one through the process of describing the different "fixes" that would be do to normal use.

Alot of us still use these pieces in everyday farming yet today. Dealers are getting crazy on shop prices (not bitchin they gotta have the $$/hr to keep it open). To "see" the fix done during the resto would give a lot of us a better idea of following thru on our own. Preview the next show in the series letting us know what exactly will be done lets us set up the VCR for a reference.

Lets face it, not all of us have less than 5 yr old equipment. In my case, my newest is a '80 2590 Case going down to an 8N. Inbetween are 930 case, 60 JD (with loader) and a 70 JD.

I used to watch all the car "mechanic" shows, but like others stated, more of a commercial for the high $$ bolt on stuff. Not conducive to the average back yarder.

Keeping the topics to resto back to usable dependent equipment would go over better IMO than taking an old piece to "showroom" condition where it would be a shame to stick it back into the field.

I have Direct TV but don't get the RFD. I would tho if I could get usable everyday info from it rather than just the entertainment value.

Peaked an interest in me tho hearing horse stuff shown. I raise and breed on the side. Seeing training shows would entice me further.

Bruce

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CH

11-20-2003 01:22:53




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
Well, I think you're going down the wrong road with the garage/restoration show theme. What I would really tune in for is a series with more of a historical slant - something along the lines of the "Tales of the Gun" series from the history channel. My favorite episode was the one about John Moses Browning. The one where they interviewed Kalashnikov and Eugene Stoner side-by-side was a real classic too. Following that theme, I would suggest having episodes like harvesters, threshers & combines (include the story of Cyrus McCormick), the Farmall tractor, John Deere and his moldboard plow, the story of the Graham-Hoeme chisel plow, etc, etc, etc. The list is endless. Put the stories of the machines and the men/companies behind them within the context of our nation's history. Also, show some current footage of a machine and its owner doing some _actual work_. That's what I'd like to see. Just my $0.02.

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Kelly C

11-20-2003 05:38:25




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 Re: Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to CH, 11-20-2003 01:22:53  
I dont think doing a restore show would be going down the wrong road. To my wifes shagrin I would watch often.
You other ideas are great ones though and thats not just because I am a History channell addict.
I have DTV channell 269 permanently imprinted on my brain.



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Jason

11-19-2003 19:26:34




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I like the brit shows hosted by Mark Evans, plane is born, chopper is born, car is reborn ect.... Half the fun is the differnt names of things, i.e spanner=wrench. The other is that he's a Veterinarian and has written some pretty good books on the subject. I like American Chopper, I work in a family business and it's nice to see my problems on t.v. in someone else's family for once. Monster Garage will depend on the episode. I don't like shade tree, just a bunch of salesmen hawking junk and that goes for most of the hot rod shows.

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Leroy

11-19-2003 18:35:52




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
Where do you find these programs? Not avaible anyware in northwest Ohio that I know of.



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David Bennett

11-19-2003 20:33:38




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 Re: Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to Leroy, 11-19-2003 18:35:52  
gotta have cable, or better yet satelite. broadcast tv has to appeal to a much wider audience than these "special interest" programs. although shows like "American Chopper" (on Discovery) is more about the people on the show than the bike and appeals to a wider audience. broadcast tv relegates most real informational tv to sat or sun mornings if at all.



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Les...Hey Dave

11-19-2003 18:07:47




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
If you answered before I must have missed it but where are you located? I'm in NH.



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David Bennett

11-19-2003 20:27:57




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 Re: Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to Les...Hey Dave, 11-19-2003 18:07:47  
I'm in Kansas, very NE corner of the state. I've been to NH once, went to a timber framing school back in the '80's. What's your connection to Old Tractors?



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Okla/Kans Bill

11-20-2003 05:56:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett, 11-19-2003 20:27:57  

Where are you at. I was born raised betwee Atchison and Wathena. Grad WHS in 65



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David Bennett (Video Outp

11-20-2003 07:46:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 11-20-2003 05:56:48  
4 Miles south of Bendena, KS, howdy neighbor! I've been in Doniphan County for about 15 years.



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Les...fortunate

11-20-2003 02:55:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett, 11-19-2003 20:27:57  
I'm an old farm boy. Pretty side hill and rough going around here (mountains!) and that's why there's hardly any farms any more, especially here in ski country.
Grew up on a Farmall C. Got bit by the bug bad a couple years ago. Bought a '52 Case VAC, then a '48 Farmall M. This year bought a '44 Case SC whose name should have been "Basket". Still working on getting it running right. It was in real rough shape. I will probably never fully restore it. I'll just be happy to have it running.
Last thing I bought was a nice little Farmall A, 1941.
You can't have too many tractors.
Oh, I also have a 1970 Allis Chalmers garden tractor.

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Les...fortunate

11-19-2003 18:02:57




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I watch RFD about as much as I watch anything else. I love the Tractor shows but some of them have been repeated so many times. I love the calendar shows where they spend several minutes on each machine. Parade shows are less enjoyable. Pulling to me is extremely boring. I'd rather watch paint dry. I like watching the old machines doing something, especially when they are belted up to a mill or something like that. Doing what they were meant to do is more desireable than just looking pretty to me.
On RFD, I also like the trains and locomotives shows. Also some of the music shows, especially the Cumberland Highlanders. I'm not a horse person but sometimes those shows are interesting, especially the Australian feller.
I don't watch junkyard wars or shadetree mechanic unless it's by accident.

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JohN 50

11-19-2003 17:47:58




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 Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to David Bennett (Video Outp, 11-19-2003 16:02:15  
I usually watch anything dealing with equipment, new , old. Really enjoy the shows that get into the history and development of machines. The Monster garage type of show don't do anything for me but Junkyard wars I won't miss. I like DYI shows that someone WITHOUT a mega budget could do and hands on, lots of hands on.



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Dana

11-20-2003 03:31:52




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 Re: Re: Tractor Restoration on TV #2 in reply to JohN 50, 11-19-2003 17:47:58  
I don't think I would like to see a tractor restoration show with a large bankroll to spend on the tractor. I used to like This Old House but it's turning into How Much Can We Spend On This Old House.



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