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Sand blasting with Dry Ice

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Justin

11-20-2003 13:22:39

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Has anyone ever done this?? I have heard of it being done, but would like to learn more about it. What equipment do you need how well does it work. Other pros and cons. I think this woudl be good to do with tractors so you don't have to worry about getting all of the sand out of the cracks before you paint. The ice will just melt away. Thanks Justin

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Basket Case

11-22-2003 06:29:40

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Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Justin , 11-20-2003 13:22:39

RUFUS,that was a great story. I needed a laugh this morning,thanks.

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Buzzman72

11-21-2003 06:30:30

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Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Justin , 11-20-2003 13:22:39

I work in a factory that builds SUV frames for a Big-3 automotive manufacturer; the frames are mig welded, mostly by robotic welders. This leaves a lot of weld slag buildup in the fixtures, which interferes with clamp arms, proximity sensor cables, and the like. The company has found that it's considerably less labor-intensive to clean the fixtures periodically (as in monthly, rather than semi-annually) by dry-ice blasting the weld slag loose,...and then just sweeping it up off the floor. But the equipment is highly specialized, and appears to be quite expensive...I don't think it'd be cost effective to blast just one (or two...or ten, even) tractor(s).

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Dan in Ore

11-21-2003 03:29:49

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Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Justin , 11-20-2003 13:22:39

They used to use one where I work. Don't know why they quit.

The theory behind it goes something like this.

When you hit whatever you are cleaning with the dry ice, first there is a huge temperature difference that causes the grime to contract lifting it from the surface being cleaned. Then the beads of dry ice hit the surface and acts similar to sand. When the dry ice hits the atmosphere and warms up it becomes carbon dioxide and therefore there is no residue other than the stuff that you blasted away from the parent material.
I always thought it would be interesting to try it, but never got the chance.

Dan

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11-21-2003 05:16:30

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Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Dan in Ore, 11-21-2003 03:29:49

I've used liquid nitrogen on some parts to remove paint and junk when I used to have free acsess to it. It also works well to free up things when you can't heat them, contracts them crushing the rust.

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Jim E

11-20-2003 16:42:07

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Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Justin , 11-20-2003 13:22:39

Despite the wonderful comments from the others yes it is done but....The equipment is specialized (read $5-10K or more) and even noiser than regular sandblasting. It's been my experience that it is used in manufacturing conditions to clean molds (injection/compression). You normally order the dry ice 2 days before and store it in a giant insulated tub similar to the 'IGLOO' coolers. Keep in mind these molds are $100K and up so the expense of the dry ice sandblaster pays for itself. For what you are wanting to do with it I don't think it would work as well to remove rust/grime from 40 year old or more iron. But if you work somewhere that has one AND they would let you use it what the heck!

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Rufus Windrow

11-20-2003 13:30:16

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Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Justin , 11-20-2003 13:22:39

Actually, it is a very old practice which people lost interest in somewhere in the mid 30's. It was up in Jake's Corner, Yukon when our neighbor Pineapple Jim Henry was "ice-blasting" the rear rims on his infamous %$# (sorry, cannot say the name here). Well, that dry ice made the tractor castings so dry that the tractor just folded up in the middle and turned into a giant pile of iron filings. He mixed them into the soil at his pineapple ranch and for years drugstores used to sell "Extract of Iron Fortified Pineapple Seeds" across the counter. Eventaully you had to have a doctor's prescription to get it and people lost interest.

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Festus Grimes

11-20-2003 16:22:36

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Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Rufus Windrow, 11-20-2003 13:30:16

Dry ice? Well of course it's dry when it's ice. but when it thaws out it's not dry anymore. Then what do you call it?

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Willy

11-20-2003 18:24:36

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Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Festus Grimes, 11-20-2003 16:22:36

Festus:

You call it "nothing" like what must be in your head. When dry ice is no longer "ice' it reverts to carbon dioxide. You did know dry ice was not made with water did you not?

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Mike (WA)

11-21-2003 08:16:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Willy, 11-20-2003 18:24:36

Willy, we hear from Rufus and Festus so seldom, we should not discourage them by committing the injustice of taking them seriously. . .

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Festus Grimes

11-21-2003 02:27:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Willy, 11-20-2003 18:24:36

Methinks thou dost take thyself too seriously.

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Dr Cy Kosis

11-20-2003 17:39:40

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Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Festus Grimes, 11-20-2003 16:22:36

Dry ice does not thaw.....it sublimates.

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funnyman

11-21-2003 06:20:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Dr Cy Kosis, 11-20-2003 17:39:40

It subtly mates with WHAT?

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Howard Yoshida

11-20-2003 17:08:21

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Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Festus Grimes, 11-20-2003 16:22:36

Carbon dioxide CO/2.

Mahalo,
Howard

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Joe

11-20-2003 18:08:41

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Howard Yoshida, 11-20-2003 17:08:21

Is it raining or really cold where you guys are?

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Howard Yoshida

11-20-2003 23:37:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Joe, 11-20-2003 18:08:41

Aloha, Cool, rainy and windy, good winter weather.

Mahalo,
Howard

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JOHN (LA)

11-20-2003 18:17:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to Joe, 11-20-2003 18:08:41

Freezing cold!!!!! !!!!! !!!
It is 52 degrees now suppose to go down to 44 tonight. BRR!!!!! !!!!!

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No.Minn.

11-21-2003 10:27:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to JOHN (LA), 11-20-2003 18:17:42

Come on That's not cold. Up here it is low 20's for HIGH temps and single digits for lows. I guess the plowing is done for this year.

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Joe

11-20-2003 18:24:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand blasting with Dry Ice in reply to JOHN (LA), 11-20-2003 18:17:42

I kinda thought so

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