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old

12-17-2003 10:34:33

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Have you ever gotten a machine, tractor crawler etc. And when you went to work on it found it to have the wrong engine, wrong parts on that engine, and then not be able to find out what the engine is from. I have that problem right now its a Cletrac HG with a continental engine, it has the wrong starter, wrong points, the govanor is gone or in other words just a mess. Have any of you had that problem before when getting an old machine??? Just asking to see if I'm the only one that finds junk like this

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Bad Auction Buy

12-19-2003 09:27:40

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Re: Question in reply to old, 12-17-2003 10:34:33

I can't remember if I heard it here or on agriculture.com but there was a post bya guy who found a good deal on a 4655 at and auction.

Took it home and decided to take it into dealership for a little tuneup, as soon as they started work they noticed it had a 4630 engine!

Needless to say his great deal turned into a hard lesson.

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Mike (WA)

12-17-2003 17:30:44

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Re: Question in reply to old, 12-17-2003 10:34:33

Hey, they did whatever they had to to keep the old stuff going. I had a Cat 50 (basically a 1935 D-7) one time that had a White Mustang truck engine in it- worked fine, probably pulled better than the original Cat engine. Oftentimes when the original engine gave out, they couldn't afford (or just plain couldn't find) the proper engine to replace it- so used something they had laying around. Trick is to find out what engine it is, then just get parts for that engine, without regard to what its in. Hot rodders have been doing that for years.

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old

12-19-2003 15:41:02

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Re: Re: Question in reply to Mike (WA), 12-17-2003 17:30:44

Ya thats the problem so far no one can tell me what engine I have other then continental

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ShepFL

12-17-2003 15:10:43

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Re: Question in reply to old, 12-17-2003 10:34:33

Going thru that right!! Just came home last weekend with an Allis G. Pics are in the tractor fotos. It has wrong motor but it is a Continental 4 cyl. Tag on the motor is there but unreadable. Did find a hefty squirrel nest in the flywheel area.

For now I will be just getting this crank start motor running but later I would like to get a correct motor for it - one that has a starter.

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Should

12-18-2003 23:26:13

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Re: Re: Question in reply to ShepFL, 12-17-2003 15:10:43

Be an N-62 Continental in that G a/c.

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Slowpoke

12-21-2003 23:04:25

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Re: Re: Re: Question in reply to Should , 12-18-2003 23:26:13

I have a Continental G193 industrial engine in an Ingersol-Rand air compressor. The manifold has G193 and 1972 cast in it. Check your manifold. You may be lucky.
BTW, anyone know of a source for push rods for the G193?

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old

12-17-2003 17:06:15

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Re: Re: Question in reply to ShepFL, 12-17-2003 15:10:43

Wish you luck, sounds like you have about the same problem I have. even the points on my machine were wrong and now I have to figure out how to mount the right ones since some one removed the pivit point for the points that should be there. Oh by the way that allis you have was built in the same city as I was born in Gadsten alamabam

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kyhayman

12-17-2003 14:15:13

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Re: Question in reply to old, 12-17-2003 10:34:33

You aren't alone. I bought a 885 David Brown (my first tractor) thet had 'never had the engine touched'. Would only start cold with ether. Sides blown out of each piston. Whoever did it must have been embaressed b/c they had filed the overbore marks off the pistons. I put standard size back in (I know better 25 years later) without checking to make sure the holes were standard. Tore it back down and found the #1 cylinder to be .030 over so I sent it to a commercial shop. They bored ever hole .010 over what it was..... ..... but #2 was already to .040 over (they should have known to check). Had to bore it out and sleeve the block back to standard. Not as bad as a completely wrong engine but definitely stressful.

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RayP(MI)

12-17-2003 11:38:46

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Re: Question in reply to old, 12-17-2003 10:34:33

Heck, I got a brand new car - ordered to my specifications. It came through with the wrong bumpers, the wrong engine, the wrong alternator, the wrong battery, and wrong rear end. Seems like there was something else, but you get the idea. They musta just threw parts on it to get it out. Sure took them a long while too.

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Bart

12-17-2003 14:31:39

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Re: Re: Question in reply to RayP(MI), 12-17-2003 11:38:46

Did you buy it from the Late And Great Johnny Cash. One peice at a time?

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G-MAN

12-17-2003 10:58:28

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Re: Question in reply to old, 12-17-2003 10:34:33

A guy that lives near my hometown was telling me about an old Cat crawler he bought. Got it home and started working on it. Couldn't get it running and found that one cylinder had ZERO compression. The cause? Somebody had robbed the entire piston and connecting rod out of that cylinder through the inspection plates in the sides of the crankcase. That would be interesting to discover.

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Gene Davis (Ga.)

12-18-2003 23:35:41

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Re: Re: Question in reply to G-MAN, 12-17-2003 10:58:28

Many years ago there was a young fellow went off in his father's Hudson Terraplane,and a few days later his father, (who was mechanically challenged) decided that his car was not running smoothly like Terreplanes were supposed to, so he carried it to a shade tree mechanic, and the guy worked on it for some time till he took the head off and saw there was no piston in one cylinder! Seems the kid and his buddies burnt out a rod in it and by the side of the road took the piston and rod out and put it in the trunk of the car. He had a long job of explaining that to his father.

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