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sam

01-03-2004 17:32:06

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i am 14 ann have been around tractors aal my life and have always wanted one of my own to do farm work. So far i have been through three and they are all GARBAGE. can someone tell me where i am going wrong. My first was an A.C. WC and it does not have enough parts to fix it and make worth wile. It cost a 100$. my second was free from someone i knew. It was a Ferguson TO-30. cracked block. tried to put it together with all-thread center berring spun and nocked out the block. my second GARABGE can. my third was a A.C. WD-45 diesil and it has a cracked block. i am really thinking of giving up as much as i hate to i will probably get fat on the couch and have no money can someone give me some advice.

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Farmall Restorer

01-05-2004 01:12:37

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

Sam: I would suggest that you find a Farmall H that runs and negotiate the price with the owner. First of course you will have to sell the ones that you already have. You can part them out or perhaps sell them as a package to a salvage
yard. I have restored two Farmall H's and am now working on a Farmall M. All three were rust buckets and needed a lot of work. The biggest problem that you will have with older tractors is that the engines are usually frozen from rust. The old tractors had cast iron sleeves and pistons. A little moisture and you have rust. If a tractor has been sitting outside for any time at all with the exhaust covered or not, chances are that the engine is frozen and the rings are also frozen in the piston ring grooves. Make sure that the engine will turn over before you buy it. Rebuilding an engine can be very expensive. Stay away from diesels because they can be even more expensive to repair. The reason that I suggest a Farmall H is that International Harvester built so
many of them that you can find them fairly easily
and parts both used and after market are readily
available. Another reason is that the Farmall H is big enough to do most things around a farm and yet not too big to handle small jobs also. I would be glad to share any information or knowledge that I have collected from the Farmall's
that I have restored with you. I know where a lot
of suppliers of parts, new or used are located.
You are welcome to E'mail me or call me at 925-371-1727.

Farmall Restorer

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Rusty Jones

01-04-2004 11:14:45

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

Sam: Well, your hard-luck story gave me the incentive to offer some advice: To wit: Hie yourself off to the local library and bone up on engines, etc. There is lots of stuff to keep you from making the same mistakes over and over. Then,take somebody older and more experienced than you to go look at what you are thinking of buying! And, if they say "don't buy it!", take their advice. Remember: If the price seems too good to be true--it usually isn't good! All-thread is usually made from mild steel! It isn't suitable for high stress applications, it will not hold up. Which is why your fix failed, probably. Go see some older mechanics for bolts, etc. when you have to repair an item in the tractor line. Hardware store bolts aren't suitable for engine repair, either. you need higher tensile strength bolts and fasteners for engine work. So, get off the couch, go read up on stuff, keep a wary eye on the bargains, ask for advice and help, and you can try to avoid being "ripped off" the next time! At the least, you're learning how to avoid a scam! Good luck: Rusty Jones

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farmallsc

01-04-2004 10:11:18

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

im also 14 and i agree that farmall is the thing to get, im restoring a super C. (i also have a newer jd 650 deisel and a gravely garden tractor) but farmalls are great, they have enough parts to keep me busy.

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Paul J

01-04-2004 10:07:24

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

Sam, Not knowing what you paid for the WD45 Diesel, I see $100.00 for the other two combined. Even at the ripe old age of 14, I'm sure you realize that you arent going to get much of a tractor for that amount. What you can get is a tractor that with patience, some reasonable money, and trolling for parts, you can end up with a tractor you yourself will be proud of, and one you can either use, show, or use as bait to get another one that more suits your fancy. Good luck, and I hope you get one of those running. One more thing....That diesel can cost dearly depending on what all besides a cracked block is wrong with it.

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sa m

01-04-2004 16:52:12

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Re: Re: tractors in reply to Paul J, 01-04-2004 10:07:24

thank you all for the help maybe one day i will get one that i can fix

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John S

01-04-2004 08:49:14

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

Sam

I know your frustration. I to started with mechanical things at an early age. I had my first hot rod camaro at 14. The one thing I have learned is to be patiant. Take your time and look at the problems. You have two with bad blocks and one theat needs parts. At fourteen projects that size seem a little overwelming, but take it one at a time. First save up what you need to buy the parts as you need them. If you have to you have three tractors. Talk to your local salvage and see if the will trade a parts tractor for one of the other two you are not working on. When you are done with one you will have something you will value and something you can say you did it all on. Its a hard lesson but one that will be with you forever. I think my father for that all the time. I now currently own a restored 65 cuda, a 70 chevy dually, a 71 ford f100, and a 70 dodge 4x4, and of course my current project a 46 Case VAC. There is nothing like the pride you will recieve when you are done. The fealing of ridding around on your own work. Sorry this was so long.

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sam

01-04-2004 06:48:01

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

thank you all and i wiil keep you posted on my progress. you all helped me stay in the game THANKS.

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Jerry

01-03-2004 21:49:16

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

Sam, I have been looking for 45diesel for a long time. I have engine, I need rest of tractor. Advice - Buy one that you hear run and drive it to see what else is wrong. The TO-30 should be wanted by some one for parts or to fix up. You got that one for nothing so you should be able sell it for more than that. Get in touch with me so we can talk for a few minutes. Jerry 715-689-2433

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Parts

01-03-2004 20:20:48

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

Part those bad ones out, you can get enough to buy a better tractor.

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stumpy

01-03-2004 18:52:01

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

buck up son! I wish i had been around tractors since i was young. I got my first tractor this past summer. I thought i was going to just use it. Mine is a'40 9N, all i have done is repairs since i got it. Don't get me wrong, I now have a great tractor, but lots of frustrating days clicked off I am a certified deisel tech and have been working on medium heavy duty equip/ US Navy equipment since I got out of high school. I learn something new everytime I turn this computer on so post all your questions, someone will answer you. Remember the only junk tractor is the one you junk :) Get one and stick with it, fixing it up will give you a heck of a lot of pride

Stumpy

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Willy-N

01-03-2004 17:58:25

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

My first tractor was a Ferguson TO 30 had a Tod thru the side of the block. Bought it for 500.00 and picked up another block for 250.00 put it in and had it running 2 day later. Total investment 750.00 after I sold some of the parts off the old block I was back into it for 500.00 running. This was several years ago and it is still running strong. You need to decide wether you are going to buy cheap and fix it or spend the big bucks for a running one. Mark H.

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farmallkid in Pa

01-03-2004 17:49:10

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Re: tractors in reply to sam, 01-03-2004 17:32:06

if u want a tractor for the usual farm chores get an international H. if u want convert to 12 volt for easier startin. if u get a junk 1 there are enough around u can get parts very easily

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onlytony

01-04-2004 04:09:42

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Re: Re: tractors in reply to farmallkid in Pa, 01-03-2004 17:49:10

My first thought about tractors, like cars or any
thing else is to get something with good parts
avalibility. My Farmall-H with a narrow front end
is the funnest tractor I have ever driven. The wide front ends may cost more, but my H will turn
so sharp it has to be seen to be believed. An H
will also go fast in 5th gear, I think it is almost 20 miles an hour. You can get an after
market 3-point hitch for Farmalls. The Farmall-M
is a nice tractor also.

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steveormary

01-03-2004 20:41:17

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Re: Re: tractors in reply to farmallkid in Pa, 01-03-2004 17:49:10

farmallkid; I bought tractors from neighbors. They ran good,drove ok and everything worked. But both had bad heads. Tore them down and got them fixed. One turned out to be a good tractor. The other not so good but worked ok for what I got it for.

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