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youngster

02-12-2004 12:29:11




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i need to do a career project and i am wondering if any one has a cool and exciting job that i willing to share info. i am thinking farming.




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Stretch in NM

02-13-2004 20:30:17




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
I'm not wishy-washy on very many topics, and I don;t mean to be on this one. But I read all 19 of the posts, and I didn;t see one that didn't impart at least a little wisdom (some of them alot of wisdom), except of course that one where that guy was stupid enough to sit around "wondering how stupid" someone else was. That's purty stupid if you ask me.

I'm not a farmer, kid, or maybe I'd try to give some advice. I chose a career that has nothing to do with farming, and I rarely leave the "g' off of any word that's supposed to have it. So it's pretty clear how much I know about the subject. But I think you've got alot of sense coming on to a forum like this to ask the experts to opine on what they do best. So, just taking a wild guess, I'd say you're probably going to do allright no matter what you end up doing.
Good luck young man.

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youngster

02-14-2004 07:21:39




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 Re: Re: Jobs in reply to Stretch in NM, 02-13-2004 20:30:17  
i thank you all. i really dont know what i am doing but i have to decide soon.



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Mark

02-14-2004 07:33:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-14-2004 07:21:39  
Well, at least you opened the can and have started thinking about it. That's an obvious sign that you are a mature (for your age) young man and aren't afraid to shoulder your responsibilities rather than do what some do and avoid the responsibility and blame everything and everyone for your problems when the solution is in the mirror.

Besides, you can always shift gears and do something else if you don't like your choice. But another word of wisdom here, the longer you wait (older you get) the more entrenched you get in what you are doing (more experience, more pay, more seniority) and it gets harder to start over. You may have a family by then and that makes it tougher as the $$ have to keep coming in to maintain the household..... ..but people do it every day.

Course if you got laid-off from a job it would be a lot easier as you would have do do something to survive and that something might be a career change, and who knows it may be the best thing that ever happened to you.

Mark

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Out Standing In My Field

02-13-2004 16:34:05




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
I read all 16 replys' I am disappointed in 97% of them, they sound like your favorite fishing hole you don't share with no one. We are supposed to be here to encourage and give a helping hand. Don't forget to help the elderly across the street on a rainy day, becuz we will be there sooner than we think, time waits for no man, and time remebers the kind person. Good luck in your job Quest



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jc

02-13-2004 13:38:32




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
In todays world of political correctness "farming" is refered to as "Production Agriculture".



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Bill 52 8n

02-13-2004 10:18:04




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
Welding..."So Hot it's Cool" according to the poster in class. Information is readily availible on the net and in library's. With all the different processes, SMAW, GTAW, FCAW, GMAW, resistance welding and oxy/fuel cutting giving a short description of each process and the tools adds up to a lot of pages fast.

Bill



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youngster

02-13-2004 18:27:48




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 Re: Re: Jobs in reply to Bill 52 8n, 02-13-2004 10:18:04  
are you a pro welder i have now relly thought of doing that. i have started at the age of 14 and really only know how to do stick but i am learing others when i get the expensive equip.



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thurlow

02-13-2004 09:42:22




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
Farming is a "cool and exciting" job; well, it's not really a job..... .more of a life-style. It's exciting when the sheriff's dispatcher calls at 2:30 in the morning and says, "Do you still have some cattle on XYZ lane"? You know she's not calling just because she's lonesome or bored. It's exciting when a 10-year employee does something which almost makes your heart stop and you thought all this time he knew what he was doing. It's exciting....not really a good word.....when it hasn't rained for 6 weeks and you tell your wife, "If we don't get some this week, we might as well hang it up". It's cool when that calf you pulled raises and shakes its head and the 2-year old mother lowers her muzzle and gently nuzzles it. It's cool when you go in and tell your wife that you need to go get a tractor and can she carry you down there after it and she slides in the truck with you and you realize all over again why you married her and how lucky you are. It's cool when you're the community welder, carpenter, plumber, electrician, mechanic, brick layer, engineer, and so on, and one of your friends calls up and says, "Bill and I were talking and we want to run this by you and see what you think". Yep, it's a cool and exciting "job".

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Buzzman72

02-13-2004 06:24:38




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
I'm not a farmer, but I grew up in a farm equipment business, so I can tell you plenty about farmin'. First thing is, if you say that word with a "g" on the end of it' it's a dead giveaway you've never done any of it.

Second thing is, there are three kinds of farmin': raisin' livestock, dirt farmin', and some combination of the two. To be a successful farmer, you have to realize that everything that determines the success of your operation--with the exception of how hard you work, and how many hours a day you put in--is out of your hands. Land prices, livestock prices, seed prices, tractor and implement prices, grain prices, weather conditions and their impact on your operation...these are all things that you have no control over. Equipment breakdowns and livestock illnesses are areas where you still have no control, but sometimes there ARE some preventative measures that might help (proper shots/medications for animals, preventive maintenance on tractors and equipment).

Is there any money in farmin'? Well, I've known a lot of farmers who have PUT a lot of money into it, but the returns were more along the lines of satisfaction than monetary in nature [except for a couple of local guys in the early '70's who got mostly out of livestock to raise corn and soybeans...bought a lot of new equipment, and paid it ALL off when beans hit $12 a bushel that year...and beans have NEVER been that high since, as far as I know. Now THAT is the farmin' equivalent of HITTING THE LOTTERY JACKPOT.].

Most farmers locally have a 'real' job in town, so they can afford to farm...or their partner [usually a son or a brother] works in town so THEY can farm full-time...or the wife teaches school, or something else of that nature.

The hours are lousy, as you're usually up at the crack of dawn--or before--so you can get an early start, and most farmers I know work as late as they can when plowin'/plantin'/pickin'/combinin' has to be done [see above reference to "weather, lack of control"].

And then there are the jobs that are less than pleasant...like handling manure, or dealing with bankers and lawyers [sometimes they're related tasks].

That's just some of it. If you STILL think farmin' is cool, then you're probably related to someone in farmin'...which would mean, you are correct. As a kid whose family ran a farm equipment repair shop, we nearly starved to death...but what we had, was because of the farmers out there...and God bless every one of 'em!

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Mark

02-13-2004 06:21:13




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
Hi Youngster,

Welcome back to the Forum now that you are a celebrity and all.

You do know that Kim published your previous question to/about "Dads" and our responses here on the site. She said she put it in the Articles section under "Research & Info".

I'm a self made professional (up thru the ranks) although I did spend a lot of time in the classroom....just didn't get credit for it. It has been a bad influence on my boys as they grew up thinking that they could do that too. Problem is, they forgot about the non-accredited time I spent studying about things.

Had 3 sons. My last was the baby of the family and was sick a lot and wasn't really tuned in to the overall scheme of things.

I tried to get him interested in something but he would never catch on (other than girls), flunked out of high school...no interest....goofing off all of the time....course he was sick sometimes too and schools didn't like the absenteeism. After bumming around lots of odd jobs most of his life, ..... get this.....at 36 years old he goes to the local Jr. College and takes a "Master Course in Heating, Air Conditioning & Refrigeration". He graduated last week, top of his class of all things.

I was totally shocked (besides being so happy that I cried) and asked him what changed? He said well dad, I met this woman that I want to marry and I have to make a living for her..... ..... ...blew me away..... ..... ..same thing I did when I wanted to marry his mother 44 years ago. I was 18 and the knot is still tied.

What's this to you? One day you may experience serious emotions and you will want to be a provider (and of course you have to attract her in the first place). It may not seem important to you now but it will pay you to think about your future, not what you see and feel now.

So, in selecting a profession, think about "What if I want to get married and have some kids". Will I be able to support them? What ever you decide upon just give it all you can and be successful at it..... .....even if you want to be a bum, be a good bum, not a half ways bum.

Wish you the best,

Mark

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JMS/MN

02-12-2004 23:10:14




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email did not show up on first response- should now.



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JMS/MN

02-12-2004 23:11:35




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Still did not- post yours here.



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JMS/MN

02-12-2004 23:07:26




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
Send me an email and I'll be glad to share a lifetime of experiences- good, bad, and the others. In these times, and especially in the future, you need a decent education to succeed, plus the willingness to put up with extreme adversity. Farming is not now, nor has it ever been, an easy job if you have to make your own way in it, without the advantage of being born in it, inheriting it, etc. It takes guts, hard work, education, and intelligence to succeed. Your career choices in agriculture are many- whether they be in producing, processing, or other areas. You've asked a good question, and I'd like to know more about what your goals and interests are- I welcome your response. I won't write your class paper, but I'll certainly be willing to share my thoughts and experiences with you.

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PL

02-12-2004 20:40:20




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 Re: Jobs in reply to youngster, 02-12-2004 12:29:11  
I'm sorry you didn't get any good, exciting ideas for your career project. What are the details of your assignment and maybe we can really be of some help. I think farming can be very exciting and rewarding. Some of the farmers I know juggle a variety of interests. Cattle, crops, hay, with all working together to make a living. Maybe your project could could mirror an operation like that.
There are also a multitude of ag related careers you might find interesting like being a live stock autioneer or a broker handeling futures and comodities. Look up the course offerings at Kansas State University and you will probably find more than you want to think about. Good luck deciding.

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Wayne

02-12-2004 20:29:38




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I have to agree with the Cowman, sometimes you just have to stop listening to the teachers and do your own thing. If every kid out there listened to everything they heard in school they're would be no farmers, mechanics, construction workers... no blue collars at all. Kids nowdays are raised by the "public" in general to think that everything they want or need in life is owed to them by society and they shouldn't have to work hard for anything. They are taught that computers are the future, and you just have to embrasse them and that's all there is to it. If you don't think that's true look at how many school systems have dropped their shop classes, their home economics classes, etc in favor of more computer courses. Those of ya'll that still live in the more rural areas may not have noticed it so much yet, but wait til a few more of the "city folk" get moved in and see what happens. I read an article a few years ago where they asked people on the street what they would do if the all the Dairy Farmers were to go under. The largest percentage of the answers was basically, 'what do we need them for??... we can always get milk at the grocery store'. I'm a heavy equipment mechanic by trade, and by choice. Like farming it's a hard, dirty, and mostly thankless job, but I enjoy it, it's who I am. I have to think most of you guys still hanging on out there and farming full time feel the same way. You keep on going as long as you can, against seemingly insurmountable odds thrown at you by the government, etc because it's in your blood, and I for one respect the He-- out of all of you. So for Youngster and anybody else out there reading this, maybe the actual act of farming, as a full time occupation isn't as cool and exciting as people might think. From where I sit though, it's the FARMERS themselves and the knowledge they have to pass along to anybody willing to listen that are some of the coolest and most interesting people around. Just my .02

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youngster

02-13-2004 06:13:25




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 Re: Re: Jobs in reply to Wayne, 02-12-2004 20:29:38  
i have also been thinking about a heavy equp. mecanic. it runs in my blood to do one of these things just not sure what.



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mudstuck

02-12-2004 18:09:13




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i been cool farming. even downright cold farming. been excited farming too. pulling grain wagon downhill and find no brakes was exciting. pulling down the coop line with the elevator was exciting too. i was younger then. slow enough now that excitement passes me by most of the time. that what you mean?



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Nebraska Cowman

02-12-2004 17:37:00




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youngster, farmin' ain't cool and exciting but I been doin' it all my life and wouldn't trade with nobody. The first thing you got to be is independant enough to refuse to do some of the things your school teachers tell you to do. maybe that is poor advice but I ain't never been to good at following.



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anybody nobody

02-12-2004 19:37:12




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I've been reading all the stuff you spout off, never really felt inclined to respond until now. I wonder how really stupid you are?



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Nebraska Cowman

02-13-2004 10:27:12




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pretty dam stupid acording to you but it has got me this far. At least i am man enough to post my email.



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va. pine knot

02-12-2004 20:03:45




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you dont learn farming it has to be borned and bred in you have a nice day



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