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Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With Brake

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T_Bone

02-13-2004 00:51:05




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I was doing some research and found out out that Arizona requires brakes, stop lites and turn signals on all tractors and implement trailers if used on any hiway after dark.

If during daylite hours, then a single lamp with using hand signals and brakes. Nothing said about the use of reflective triangles but does meet the single lamp reflective requirement. Now that is if you can see the hand signals, if not then turn signals are required.

What got me was that a implement trailer is required to have brakes if it weighs more than 3000lbs upto 6000lbs on the wheels of one axle. They also want a brake away connection.

The second one was the turn signals and stop lites on tractors.

What brought this up is our County Sherrif is going to start enforcing the rules on our water and cotton trailers in my area. Most of us have to haul water and they have been letting the requiremnt slide by for years, so now it's going to be expensive to haul water 3 miles on dirt roads.

Is this common requirement in other areas?

T_Bone

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Matt Smith

02-13-2004 13:29:36




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 Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With B in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 00:51:05  
Ask the Attorney General for his opinion of the law.



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charles

02-13-2004 19:13:14




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 Re: Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers Wi in reply to Matt Smith, 02-13-2004 13:29:36  
better cafeful what you asking the attorney general, he might you followed to get the fine



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JMS/MN

02-13-2004 12:37:10




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 Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With B in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 00:51:05  
Couple of years ago Minnesota enacted a law that requires any trailer CAPABLE of (not necessarily LOADED with) carrying 1500 pounds needs lites and brakes.



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hagan

02-13-2004 07:15:02




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 Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With B in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 00:51:05  
I used to have a HESSTON 60A STAKMOVER but it was the HIGHWAY MODEL. It had a place for a license plate and when I purchased it there was a break-away battery and stuff on the gooseneck toung. I hooked the brakes and lights up and used them and kept them in repair. I know of a couple instances where there was a couple pickus ruined when they jacknifed and no one was ever hurt. I went thru the port of entry one time "empty just to ask" and they said that my mover was a "vechile of husbandry and it was exempt from the laws as long as I was not running the interstate and going into big cities with it. I ran it for 15 years and finally sold it when I went from the hay stack system to bales.
But at one time there were aprox 30 of these movers in our area and mine and a couple others were the only ones with brakes and lights.

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Nolan

02-13-2004 06:49:53




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 Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With B in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 00:51:05  
Here in Maryland, we're not required to have our tractors illuminated that much at night. Standard triangle and visible light suffices.

Check on the effective date of these laws. There is the matter of ex post facto laws and the grandfathering that results.



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No insurance?

02-13-2004 06:21:26




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 Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With B in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 00:51:05  
Just curious; how can you operate your 2 1/2 ton Dodge on public roads without insurance? Or, are you self-insured for liabilty claims?



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T_Bone

02-13-2004 07:10:08




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 Re: Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers Wi in reply to No insurance?, 02-13-2004 06:21:26  
The state does not require proof of insurance nor registeration of farm implements too which the water truck falls under this classification.

If I was using this truck under different circumstances, then I would carry libility insurance. As it is I generaly don't see anyone on this 3 mile round trip as we live in the country thats not very populated where I live, so yes, I'm self insured.


T_Bone

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Chris Brown

02-13-2004 10:51:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailer in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 07:10:08  
I live in Missouri and they charge extra for everything they can.If it was designed for the road or water it has to be titled and licensed and any trailer over 2500 lbs must have brakes. If you move farm implements over the roads you are supposed to have a clause on your homeowners insurance to cover you,kind or like contractors liability but cheaper. I think it cost like an extra $25 or $50 per year. I have it through farm bureau. Mo. only requires reflective triangles in daytime,don't know about night time. I got fined for hauling hay bales double rowed and stacked on a 24 foot flatbed trailer behind a tractor,it was 11 foot wide and the trailer was a licensed vehicle for use on the roadway,they said if I was using a bale wagon I would have been legal,as it is a farm implement and the trailer was not. $250 later and I was alot wiser.

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VaTom

02-13-2004 04:36:44




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 Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With B in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 00:51:05  
Hi T_Bone,

Around here your trailer would be required to have lights even during daylight, unless the tow vehicle lights are easily seen. Brakes functioning only if they are on the trailer. If it was made without brakes, none required. Turn signals are the same, if present they must work. Whole lot of farm tractors here that have no brake lights. Flashers or SMV triangle is required.

That retrofitting is going to be very expensive. Are you thinking about buying a tanker truck for yourself and your neighbors?

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T_Bone

02-13-2004 05:31:53




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 Re: Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers Wi in reply to VaTom, 02-13-2004 04:36:44  
Hi Tom,

Na it won't effect me as I use a 2-1/2 ton Dodge water truck. It doesn't have to be registered or carry insurrance like a normal truck for hi-way useage.

But it sure will effect alot of people that can't afford it. There's 500 members in our community well system.

I've just never heard of turn signals on a tractor tho and the tractors that I see on road into town, I've never seen one with turn signals or stop lites.

I would bet a couple cotton farmers are going to be tweaked with the new enforcement as I've never seen a cotton trailer with brakes.

I've lived here for twenty years and only have heard of one minor accident involving a water trailer and that was because the car ran the stop sign. Most water trailers that I've seen travel about 20mph.

T_Bone

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Ben in KY

02-13-2004 11:37:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailer in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 05:31:53  
I was just at the ag equipment show in Louisville. Did not see turn or stop lights on any tractor. A couple did have a strange electrical connector on the back though so maybe it is coming.



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scotc

02-20-2004 22:37:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Tra in reply to Ben in KY, 02-13-2004 11:37:44  
the 86-up series IHC tractors usually came with a semi-truck plug on the back for plugging in lights on what was being pulled. I know you just about got to be an engineer to read the print ohio has to show off their lighting requirements. They sure have a lot of nice old cars and equipment running around over there for the Richard Craniums they are in columbus.



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VaTom

02-14-2004 10:04:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Tra in reply to Ben in KY, 02-13-2004 11:37:44  
Hi Ben,

That's interesting. I've never been to an equipment show, but I've seen a lot of turn signals on tractors. My 15 yr old Japanese CUT has them. Makes for twin flashers and me more comfortable on a road. Brake lights are another matter, and considering tractor speed, I don't see much point.



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Dick2

02-13-2004 04:23:50




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 Re: Lites On Tractors, Implements, Trailers With B in reply to T_Bone, 02-13-2004 00:51:05  
It doesn't matter if it is required or not - with all of the lawsuits these days, you should put on every possible safety/warning device you can find to try to protect yourself against being sued. These devises are real cheap compared to defense lawyers and losing a lawsuit.



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