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I think I was almost phone scammed tonite

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T.J.-N.J.

03-10-2004 17:22:35




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This isn't tractor related but I was curious if anyone else had gotten a call like this. I was called tonite by a tele marketer who said she was representing the American Cancer Society and asked me if I was willing to help them out this year, I asked her what was involved and she said she would send me six envelopes to address and send to my neighbors and they could then send them in with their donations. It sounded like a scam to me and I hung up on her, the ACS does a lot of good work but I don't think they would do something like this to raise funds. T.J.

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Fred OH

03-12-2004 08:47:31




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
I once got one of those telemarketers so hog eyed that after I hung up on him he called back and told me I wasn't much of a man and then he hung up. That gave me a great big smile. Andy Rooney (critic of most anything) has some dos and don'ts to use on them...and I think he has a website. Wish the emailing sewer rats could be traced...you would hear more stories like the farmer spraying the state bldg. with liquified manure.
My advise...keep your donations local...at least you can see if their accountability goes nuts...and put Loctite in their locks...house, car...well you get the point. Fred OH

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Loren-Minnesota

03-12-2004 08:37:52




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
I have to put my 2 cents worth in. My wife has been involved with United Way for over 20 years, as a volunteer, in various locations where we have lived, from Minnesota to Michigan. Yes you are going to have bad apples, but overall I think it is an excellent organization. She and I are also involved the the American Cancer Society. She being a breast cancer survivor for nearly 6 years now. Again, you will have bad apples, but again, I believe it to be a good organization. Hell, think about it, we frequently have those same bad apples on these forums. Right?
My 2 cents. Loren

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Davis In SC

03-11-2004 09:22:00




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
What is everyone's opinion of The United Way ??? I used to give to them, until I saw the huge salaries that they make. Plus, I was not really impressed with some of the organizations they share the donations with..... .



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Paul in Mich

03-11-2004 14:52:39




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 Re: Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to Davis In SC, 03-11-2004 09:22:00  
Dave, I don't have any particular beef with United Way, but I do have a problem with them and the company I worked for (Dade County Fla) getting their heads together and guaranteeing 100% employee participation without asking me first. This they did, and my boss had me on the carpet asking why I hadnt filled out my contribution slip. He explained to me that even if I pledged $1.00 per pay period that it would amount to 100% participation, and that without my pledge, that they were short of their committment. Thats when I jumped up and told him in no uncertain terms that he had every right to pledge as much of his own money as he wanted, but that he had no right to pledge a penny of mine. I didn't back down then even though it could have probably cost me my job, but for principal I was never about to budge. I would do the same today. I have no problem with any charity asking me for donations, but I don't mind telling them when I say no, I mean no. Less than a month ago, I had someone from the next county phone me asking for donations for the sherrif's auxillary fund or something like that. When I said no, he came back by asking me if I thought it important to support my communiity. I told him I didn't live in that community, in fact I didnt live in the same county, he so much as called me a liar because of my phone exchange. Thats when I let him know what an ignorant, arrogant moron I thought he was. Truth is I dont even live in that county, even tho my phone exchange and mailing address is in that county. Bottom line is that I didn't appreciate his arrogant attitude and since he didn't mind ruining my day, I felt no obligation to salvage his. These phone jerks wonder why congress passed the do not call legislation.

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Polish Mike

03-11-2004 09:52:54




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 Re: Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to Davis In SC, 03-11-2004 09:22:00  
I used to give to the United Way also, until a few years back their CEO got busted using the donated money to keep his young girlfriend in a luxury apartment, plus giving her a "salary".

Stopped donating right after that..... .....



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ErnieD

03-10-2004 19:39:31




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
So the first thing to ask is what their expense to donation ratio is. Most have 90% expense ratios, and 10% goes to the charity. Phones are expensive you know.



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LS

03-10-2004 19:06:38




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
Seems to me that the American Cancer Society is a scam to start with. How many years have they been "in business" under the guise of research ? How many millions of $ have they collected ? How many "cures" for cancer have they ever really found ? My opinion is that you made a good decision to hang up.



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thurlow

03-11-2004 19:49:34




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 Re: Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to LS, 03-10-2004 19:06:38  
My take on the American Cancer Society is quite different from yours. The watchdog groups which monitor non-profit organizations consistently rank them in the top 5 for the way they distribute their money. About 6% for administration, 15% for fund raising and everything else for detection, prevention, patient support, research, etc. I agree there are no cures, but the expected life spans of those with many forms of cancer are continually increasing; the quality of life is better also. My parents led healthy lifestyles, but both died of cancer; my wife is a breast cancer survivor. One of the most rewarding things I do is to participate in the annual local Relay-for-Life; join up; you'll never be sorry. Check out the American Cancer Society's web site..... ....

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Terry H

03-10-2004 19:04:13




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
Can't blame you for being skeptical, I get about 2 dozen calls a week from one shady character or another begging for money, but in this case it was probably legit. I've done it a few times over the years. ACS get's you to work over your neighbors for donations. Saves them time and money. March of Dimes, or Easter Seals does the same thing once in a while.

Terry H



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earlschieb

03-10-2004 18:02:54




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
This was not a scam, I have done it for them a few times over the last 15 years.



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Steve from TN

03-10-2004 18:35:34




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 Re: Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to earlschieb, 03-10-2004 18:02:54  
Earl's right. It's no scam. They get people to work their neighborhood. This works better since these are people you know who are collecting for the Cancer Society. Easter Seals works this way too.



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Les...fortunate

03-10-2004 17:53:34




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 Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to T.J.-N.J., 03-10-2004 17:22:35  
I got so mad at a guy calling supposedly representing the Police Chiefs Association that I hollered at him to "GET OFF MY PHONE". I've never done that before but this guy crossed the line when he started whining about how unAmerican I was not to donate to that cause. Some of them people have got a lot of GD gall.



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Farmall Don

03-12-2004 05:18:04




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 Re: Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to Les...fortunate, 03-10-2004 17:53:34  
I became discused when they whinned about budget cuts soon after the Sherrif had his office remodled, including new furniture and if I remember correctly it was about $20,000.00 worth of work and furnishings. Then a local municipality had to have a new truck because the existing one was too old. Well, the thing may have been 12 years old, but it was just broke in by any of our standards. Same with a new fire truck for a local fire department. The thing had extremely low miles and was in mint condition.
Just my thoughts

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Jimmy King

03-11-2004 04:52:42




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 Re: Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to Les...fortunate, 03-10-2004 17:53:34  
They hung right up on me when I said Hey they make more money than I do and my job is just as dangerous.



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LesWV

03-10-2004 21:25:13




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 Re: Re: I think I was almost phone scammed tonite in reply to Les...fortunate, 03-10-2004 17:53:34  
I had a few calls once asking for donations to the Police Officers Retirement fund. I just told them that if they do not have a retirement plan being State employees. Then they need to find another line of work.

I have found that asking for a call back number will usally seperate the scammers from the legits.

The best one I have had in awhile was some guy That kept calling every day or two telling me that he can get me a better interest on my American Express card. I lead him on for about an hour. Then told him that I use VISA and if I ever decided to get an American Express card that I would be sure to contact him for a better rate. He has not called back since.

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