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Errin OH

03-15-2004 20:33:52




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I may have been born at night but it wasn't last NIGHT! Got this in the old in box today. Couple things I don't get, 1. How did they send a email from me to them, & cc me???? 2. ebay has mail services (@ebay.com)?? A rebulit eninge for 450 shipping included, Oh yea and it will be here in 24-48, Man oh man, I'll do a dozen. Bet you take credit cards too.....

Seriously the email thing, Think I been hacked?

Email - Subj: Ford Jubilee NAA 134 tractor engine motor not 8N 9N 2N Date: 3/15/2004 7:53:41 AM Eastern Standard Time From: erXXXXX @aol.com To: sgwebform@ebay.com Cc: erXXXXX @aol.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Sory if i disturb you and won't waste you time with my offer but i want to tell that I seen you interested about Ford Jubilee NAA 134 tractor engine motor not 8N 9N 2N I have for sale a brand new Ford Jubilee NAA 134 tractor engine motor not 8N 9N 2N comes with all original accesories ,with manuals and warranty ), is the same like the one you are bidding,
If you want to buy it please e-mail at zada_radar@yahoo.com and let me know if you`re
intersted so i can give you more details about them , I can offer a secure payment and shipping, shippment inssured - INTERNATIONALY/INSIDE COUNTRY shipped.
Shipping will take usually - 24/48 hours
It's in perfect condition. My price i sale is 450 with all shipping and handling fees included which i will pay!!
I don't want to list the unit again because of the scammers on yahoo. Please let me know as soon as possible Have a nice day florin

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Contact Information for ehart6: E-mail: erXXXXX X@aol.com


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Thank you for using eBay!
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Dave-o

03-17-2004 21:41:39




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 Re: Now its just annoying. in reply to Errin OH, 03-15-2004 20:33:52  
Most folks here are tractor nerds and not computer nerds. So here's a simple explanation:

This was at the tail end of that email:
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See that .sg malarkey?

The US essentially invented the Internet. Long story about the military funding data networks, lots of details, blah blah.

dot-com/net/org/edu mainly means "United States" and is run by a series of US based under a cartel called ICANN (10 years back, one had to show proof of a business to get .com, proof of a non-profit org to get .org, educational to get .edu, etc). If you feel doubt, check out:
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Do a 'whois' search on the owner of the domain. You can find their name, address, phone number and a suprisingly large amount of data.


Everything that ends in a 2 letter code is a 2 letter ISO code for a country. Those aren't as easily searchable as they are maintained by the country themselves. They usually contract this out to a private firm, although it used to be universities/non-profits and sometimes still is.

Example: Netherlands : small country north of Belgium (BE), West of Germany (DE) is known as NL. To get a domain name in .nl (e.g. dave-o.nl), you have to show a business license (registration) and a lot of other legal paperwork. In the .com/net/org, anyone can register for $10/yr to own whateverthehecktheywant.com/net/org.


.tv is a tiny island nation in the South Pacific that has sold the rights to their domain name to a for profit firm.

.sg is probably the same deal and most certainly a scam. Check the country code on and two letter domain name ending. Do a search on google.com for ISO Country Codes and see what you find. If it isn't a .com/net/org and isn't from a major Western European country, it is most likely a scam.

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Chris-se-ILL

03-18-2004 08:09:14




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 Re: Re: Now its just annoying. in reply to Dave-o, 03-17-2004 21:41:39  
.sg = singapore

Hmmm.... I didn't know that Singapore had an ebay... {chuckling}



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Ray,IN

03-16-2004 19:31:15




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 Re: Now its just annoying. in reply to Errin OH, 03-15-2004 20:33:52  
It's a dead giveaway when you see the broken english and poorly constructed sentences that are common to some foreign countries. This is a variation of the same old scam. I once received an email from myself containing a virus-(Norton caught it)now how did that happen? Same method you received.



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MarkB

03-16-2004 05:57:56




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 Re: Now its just annoying. in reply to Errin OH, 03-15-2004 20:33:52  
Errin,

email addresses are easily spoofed. If you've ever posted your email on a public forum (such as this one), somebody has it and is not only sending YOU spam, they're sending OTHER people spam using YOUR email address.

The mail protocols used on the internet provide no authentication, which is one reason that spam is such a problem.

If you set the display options on your email client to show "full headers", you will get enough information to trace the email back to its original source. Not that that will help you much, but at least you will see that it didn't originate with your PC, nor did it come from ebay. Note that the headers itself is probably obfuscated; you can find details on the web about how to decipher obfuscated mail headers. You can even trace its origin back to an ISP, where you can file a complaint. (Not that the ISP is likely to do anything, since they're probably on the other side of the world.)

My recommendation is just ignore it. Junk like this is a fact of life on the internet today.

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Chris-se-ILL

03-15-2004 21:44:06




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 Re: Now its just annoying. in reply to Errin OH, 03-15-2004 20:33:52  
Sounds like a scam to me! Those are the very reasons I have sworn off Ebay.

I saw that the return email was "zada_radar@yahoo" you could have some real fun with that. Just visit a bunch of "Advertiser's sites" and register that email addy.... it won't be too active for too long with all the spam that will pour into it... just a thought! :D



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Oldfarmboy Jim

03-15-2004 20:58:27




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 Re: Now its just annoying. in reply to Errin OH, 03-15-2004 20:33:52  
This guy probably picked your e-mail address up from eBay. He probably does have some software that will let him use bogus or real dot coms that are not registered as his. Send a copy of the e-mail to spoof@eBay.com . They will investigate because people are always trying to steal user ID's and passwords and credit card info from eBay users. I wouldn't trust the engine to be what he claims. Ask him if he would sell it to you using eBay's "Buy It Now" and escrow features. You know that no one would sell a "perfect" 134 complete for $450. But a piece of crap, well that's a different story. If it sounds too good to be true..... ..... ..... ... run like heck!

Good luck, Jim

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