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Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor

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Bill Nutile

04-13-1999 18:12:50




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I am 70 yrs. old. (Not that much longer to be around this great world) Just built my final retirement home with an acre of lawn out in the country. Never owned a riding mower. John Deer is very popular in my area. However seems to be the most expensive. Craftsman appeals to me because they will come to your house to repair it and the three year service program for regular service seems nice. I also have a MF dealer near me. I have no idea what to get. Obviously I want the best I can get for the years I will be around for the least amount of retirement money spent. Any help? Thanks!

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robert haley

04-02-2002 21:13:02




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 Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to Bill Nutile, 04-13-1999 18:12:50  
i used to sell craftsman tractors for sears. just to let some of you guys know craftsman is made by A.Y.P (AMERICAN YARD PRODUCTS) IN THE CAROLINAS. get the facts strait. try out the cub cadet line i think you'll be impressed. take it from me i sold them both.



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john d.

04-14-1999 14:43:09




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 Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to Bill Nutile, 04-13-1999 18:12:50  
Don't make plans for not being around much longer unless you've got solid reasons for thinking that! My dad bought a Wheelhorse hydrostatic when he was nearly 60 and thought it would outlast him. I don't know about that, as he's 87 now and they're both still going strong!
Definitely consider the hydrostatic drive option. Some of these also feature hydraulic lift for the mower deck, and that makes life easier if arthritis becomes a factor.
My father-in-law bought a big Craftsman a few years ago, and took the maintenance contract on it. That wasn't cheap, but it's paid for itself many times over. Dad's old Wheelhorse is of a little tougher design than some of their newer ones, but for user-friendly design and being easy to work on, give them a good look. I've got a Deere which has been a good one, but new ones are VERY pricey. My advice is to not buy one until you spend an hour or so working with it, or one nearly like it!

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steve

04-14-1999 10:49:50




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 Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to Bill Nutile, 04-13-1999 18:12:50  
You have got some good advice already, but please consider this. I have a family friend who built a place in south Texas to retire. A storm took out his orange trees when he was 78. He didn't replant since he thought he was too old to see fruit from the new trees. Well, he's 88 now. So don't concentrate too hard on the short run, get something you will like for several years. If you don't, you might wind up driving something you hate for a long, long time.

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The Red, John Fritz

04-14-1999 09:06:04




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 Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to Bill Nutile, 04-13-1999 18:12:50  
Bill, I have a JD STX38 at the farm that is going onto its tenth season. It has been beaten too death and I have around 350 hours on the Kohler motor. I have only changed the battery and the blades and that is it. Still not burning any oil. I change oil and filter once a year and hit the grease spots and clean the air filter. It has been an extremely reliable machine.

The succesor to this one is the LX133 for $1,999 in the Indianapolis area.

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bigp

04-14-1999 05:51:41




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 Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to Bill Nutile, 04-13-1999 18:12:50  
Ive been looking also. I would definatley get hydrostat (automatic) transmission. That shifting could get real old. I like the craftman. They seemed to have the better looking stuff (engines). But its still MTD. MTD makes just about all those cheaper lawn tractors. But it should outlast you. (Hope that didnt sound mean.) Good luck!



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Forrest Finch

02-17-2005 22:25:29




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 Re: Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to bigp, 04-14-1999 05:51:41  
Hello, I've read all of the feed back that you've been getting, and a lot of good points have been made. It's absolutely true that you should look at quality vs. price. Names like John Deer, Cub Cadet, Massey, Ford, and some other farm brand names are very tough machines. But, when you get away from the farm brands and start looking at the store brands, ie Sears/Craftsman, Husky, Yard Machine, and all of the rest, The Sears/Craftsman brand packs more Bang for the Buck than any of them! By-the-way, The Sears brand tractors are built by a company once known as "David Bradly", then, after a merger,it became "Roper" for many years. Now after several other mergers, it has become "American Yard Products" or "AYP". "MTD", who builds many brands, including JD, purchased Cub Cadet from "International Harvester" a few years back. I own two old Sears brand tractors. One is a 1976 Sears garden tractor that runs four seasons out of the year. It mowes, Blowes snow, rear blade mounted to a hydraulic 3 point hitch, and a Heated cab. I'm 52 years old, and as long as I can find parts when I need them, I'll run er another 30 years. The other one is a 1982 Sears/Craftsman. ( Not to be compared with Sears.) lawn tractor. It mowes flawlessly. I don't want to make you JD people mad. I owned a JD a few years back. It cost me a small fortune for parts. Yes, JD's need maintainence too. I kept the Sears and sold the JD, and never looked back. If I were in the market for a new tractor. One that would work for me when, and just as hard as I want it to, I would be in the market for a Craftsman GT 5000 garden tractor with a 25 hp Kohler V-twinn, and a 6 spd, gearbox. Put it in the gear you want, and go to work. No need to shift. The reason I prefer a gearbox is because they last forever and require very little maintainence. Much tougher then the automatic, and less money. Not to mention, the automatic is using 2-3 hp to push fluids. The gearbox takes approx. a 1/2 hp. to oporate, leaving more power to run your impliments. I'm including the link to a group of little tractor motor heads that may be of interest to you. Tell them Forrest sent you. Also a picture of the tractor I just mentioned.

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Bill Nutile

04-14-1999 18:24:58




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 Re: Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to bigp, 04-14-1999 05:51:41  

Thanks guys for all the good advice especially about trying them out. Never gave that a thought. Will embark on that right away.
And thanks for the pep talk on not packing it in too soon. Appreciate everything.

Bill Nutile



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Steve Hansen

04-13-1999 21:04:03




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 Re: Buying a Lawn and Garden Mower/Tractor in reply to Bill Nutile, 04-13-1999 18:12:50  
Bill,

I have owned an 18 hp Craftsman garden tractor for about seven years now. If you are just going to mow grass you do not need a garden tractor - you need a riding mower. My experience tells me a garden tractor is no tractor at all and does not do as good a job of mowing as a machine designed around this principal function. With a acre to mow you will need something in the order of a 44" deck. I would check all of the major dealers and also the various home centers. Get an idea of the features you need - hydro or clutch and gears, bagger, mulching blades, etc. Once you know what you want price shop. I would not overlook the small independent dealers. They tend to have good equipment and service what they sell (if they don't service on site they will usually pick up and deliver). Their prices will be higher than the department store models (most of which are made by MTD or Murray) but may be less than what you will see at the Green or Red Store. My Craftsman has given me good service. However, I know people who have had problems. I recommend an engine with a full flow oil system with a filter. My fater-in-law is about your age. He has a bit of trouble getting on and off his mower and the clutch is starting to be too much for him. If you think you might be facing these kind of problems look at one of the specialized machines (motor in back - seat in front) that are easier to mount. Hydro may be a desireable feature also. Power steering is available on some top of the line models but be prepared to pay through the nose for it. If you keep your mower inside when it is not being used, run fresh gas, change the oil and filters (air, fuel, and oil) regularly and run sharp blades it will last forever. This kind of maintenance is easy to do yourself and there are people available who will do if for you if you are not inclined (and not just the folks from Sears). This is both more and less than you asked for. Hope it helps. E-mail me if you have follow-up questions.

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