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Sick 285 MF

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Farmer/Paul

07-23-2004 04:20:40




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My faithful old MF 285 is sick. Injector pump went in May. The head gasket just went between the 1st, 2 cylinders.

After cleaning up the head I have found a crack in each of the 1st and 2nd cyinders (running vertically ). I am going to pull the pistons. To get the sleeves out I am told I will have to weld on the liners to heat the up.

What type of rod ,amperage, polarity ? Or should I mig it?

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Ron

07-23-2004 05:19:04




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 Re: Sick 285 MF in reply to Farmer/Paul, 07-23-2004 04:20:40  
The engine was seriously overheated so you have a lot more work to do than remove the liners.

But to answer your question, liners are removed with a press though some old-timers beat them out with a block of wood and hammer during an in-frame. Heating them will cause them to expand and make removal even more difficult.



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Brad_fromTN

07-23-2004 07:19:51




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 Re: Re: Sick 285 MF in reply to Ron, 07-23-2004 05:19:04  
The shrinkage effect upon cooldown after welding a vertical bead the length of the sleeve generally allows them to be easily removed. I think the most important thing to avoid is burn through of the sleeve...that could make it harder to remove. The proper driver etc. is a good way also. Enough of that, now to the real problem.

Cracked sleeves and Head/Block warpage. IMHO, that block needs to come out of the tractor, be completely torn down, hot tanked and the head and block completely magnafluxed for cracks and checked for warpage. Any less and you risk doing it all again at least one more time.

As mentioned previously, it would seem that the engine may have been badly overheated at some point in it's life. Important to have a working temperature gauge on a tractor and watch it often.

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Bob

07-23-2004 07:14:47




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 Re: Re: Sick 285 MF in reply to Ron, 07-23-2004 05:19:04  
His engine has dry sleeves. It is an old mechanic's trick to weld several beads vertically in the old sleeves and allow them to cool. The sleeves will shrink when the welds cool, and usually are easily removed.

I don't think it's real critical what rod is used, as long as the welder has some welding experience, and is able to "burn" the weld into the sleeve a bit without burning through into the actual bore.

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