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HermanR

09-12-2004 20:38:42




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I bought a couple of Coleman lanterns at a garage sale. After a bit of cleaning, the two mantle one works like a champ. I can"t get the single mantle one to stay lit no matter what. The pump pressurizes the tank and there aren"t any leaks. It lights OK but sputters out after a few minutes. I was told that it is a military style and that those never really work properly. Anyone know if this is true or what a fix might be? I can"t imagine Uncle Sam would keep his troops in the dark. Oops, maybe I shouldn"t have opened that door!

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HermanR

09-13-2004 08:32:39




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to HermanR, 09-12-2004 20:38:42  
The generator on this lantern is an oddball. Its not a straight tube with the cleaning wire/mechanism inside. It comes out of the valve assembly at a 45 degree angle then arcs up and over and enters the mantle housing from the top. There"s no provision for a cleaning wire. The generator tube (1/4" aluminum) is filled with some sort of wick or packing. My guess is that the generator tube is too far from the mantle and doesn"t get hot enough to vaporize the fuel and create back pressure in the tank. I don"t want to futz with it too much and create a fire hazard by getting the tube too hot either.

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Kevin (FL)

09-13-2004 06:44:34




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to HermanR, 09-12-2004 20:38:42  
Herman,

I agree on the generator problem. On a few occasions, I've been able to clean those out with carb cleaner and then run some marvel mystery oil through them for lubrication. The generator has a very stiff needle running through it and also a very small jet that gets gummed up with the old fuel. We always use unleaded gas but the experts and folks with plenty of money use the fuel sold by coleman.

Make sure you oil the pump housing also--on the older lanterns, there's a leather "piston" and on the newer ones it's made of rubber or neoprene.

Also, you can unscrew the mantle tube (the one that has the screen on the end that you tie the mantles to) and sometimes you'll find trash on the bottom of that screen. That won't cause the lantern to go out, but it will stop some of the fuel from getting through and cause a weaker flame. Last thing, put some oil on the cap threads and on the O-ring seal underneath the cap to keep it from getting cracked. A bad cap will cause pressure loss over time and you'll have to keep pumping it back up.

A few safety suggestions--whenever you repair a coleman lantern and you light it for the first time always go outdoors and never light with the globe on. You can also have a steel garbage can handy to smother the lantern if it flames up due to gas leaks or whatever. Fire extinguishers work too, but then you have to get them refilled afterwards. Be careful and check all fittings for leaks before lighting the lantern.

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Stick

09-13-2004 07:02:39




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to Kevin (FL), 09-13-2004 06:44:34  
Funny about the leather washer vs neoprene. Here in Canada Coleman sells a "Cold Weather" conversion kit, which consists of, yep, you got it, a leather washer and a little tube of oil for it. The neoprene doesn't work well in the cold!

And now for something completely different. I have a Coleman lantern that looks like a fuel one, but the "tank" comes apart and inside is a can of propane about the size of one of the old freon boat horn cartridges. I don't ever remember them being sold here. The cartridge that's in it still is about half full, it has a K-Mart price sticker on it. Anyone know what I'm referring to, and whether they're still sold anywhere?

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Kendall

09-13-2004 13:18:11




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to Stick, 09-13-2004 07:02:39  
I wonder if the small cylinders used for camp stoves will fit. I'm talking about the high-dollar stuff like you find at REI.



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TimV

09-13-2004 10:12:35




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to Stick, 09-13-2004 07:02:39  
Stick: this may be a dumb question, but have you checked to see if a regular propane tank will fit? There are plenty of Coleman lanterns out there that just use a regular (propane torch or propane stove type) tank.



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Stick

09-13-2004 10:26:46




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to TimV, 09-13-2004 10:12:35  
Tim,

Nope, this is a little threaded fitting very similar to a freon can. At first i thought it might be butane, but the can says propane.



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Kendall

09-13-2004 13:26:09




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to Stick, 09-13-2004 10:26:46  
Stick, go to REI.com and check out the isopro fuel canisters in the cook stove dept. I just took a look and the threaded end is as you describe. These are for the high dollar little stove that none of us will ever buy.



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TimV

09-13-2004 11:42:38




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to Stick, 09-13-2004 10:26:46  
Stick: oh, well--worth a try anyway! I picked up two Coleman lanterns at a garage sale this summer--a propane one and a coleman-fuel one, for the princely sum of $0.50 each. Cleaned them up and replaced the mantles, and both work fine. The propane one takes the "regular" bottles, which is why I thought yours might be similar.



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Scoutmaster ShepFL

09-13-2004 05:25:12




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to HermanR, 09-12-2004 20:38:42  
Sounds as if the generator is shot. These can be picked at most discount stores for just a few bucks. I am always on the lookout for older laterns (yard sales) for my scouts.



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

09-12-2004 20:49:00




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to HermanR, 09-12-2004 20:38:42  
I'm not familiar with the military models as to what was different with them than civilian models, but assuming turning the cleaning handle doesn't help it, the generator (long thin tube going from base to mantle) probably needs replaced.



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Kendall

09-13-2004 13:29:15




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 Re: OT Coleman lanterns in reply to John *.?-!.* cub owner, 09-12-2004 20:49:00  
I dont think there is any difference other than OD green with military talk printed on the side.



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