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Ray

09-21-2004 19:20:48




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Anyone know of any halfway reasonable health
insurance? Mine just went up $1200,now going to
be $8000 per year with a $3500 deductable.I farm
and it"s hard to afford this.I"m 54 with a wife and son,never had any claims.I know people who
don"t work and get it free.Maybe that"s what I
should do.




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TheRealRon

09-22-2004 04:57:10




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to Ray, 09-21-2004 19:20:48  
I feel for you guys, all of you.

Before I met my wife she had worked for a large health insurance company. She told me flat out it's a scam. So we did something different, something that might help especially the younger folks.

We self-insured. Basically we put away a small amount each month into a bank account strictly for medical and dental expenses. We pay cash for services from that account. We don't seek services for trivial things like "colds". We are responsible for our own medical knowledge; example: a doctor diagnosed her with a serious medical condition and wanted to put her on $300/month worth of pills for the rest of her life. We did our own research, got a second opinion, and found out she really had a minor thyroid problem solved by $12/month worth of pills.

Yes, you have to have discipline to put money away each month and not touch it for anything else so it may not be for everybody. But it can pay off; we have saved over $250k (premiums - actual costs) during our marriage through self-insurance.

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John A.

09-22-2004 11:27:05




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to TheRealRon, 09-22-2004 04:57:10  
Real Ron, Being cautious.....I appaulad you and you wifes self-dicipline. But I personally belive that most folks won't have the self diipiline not to dip into this nest-egg. Also you have said you have saved +250k. I know many, many folks who have had medical problems that have gone far over 250 K. like you have saved.
Maybe NOW is the time to get insurance. Ones body is very simular to an auto.....It goes many yrs and doesn't need much. But instead of trading it off while it is still good, you decide to keep it one more year. It's that year when every thing imaginable go wrong with it, and needs to be fixed. But our bodies are not auto, we are stuck with this ol body!
All you need is one auto wreck, heart attack,Heart by-passTo wipe out that nest egg.
I implore yor not to let that happen. Now is when you need Ins. coverage more than ever especially if you are 50 and above.
For The vast majority of people going without is like playing Russian Roulett.
You have the funds dedicated for it, Let that 250K work for you to keep you in coverage. At 6% in a good Equity Index Annuity There is more than enough to pay Annual premiums. And plenty left over to continue to grow your principal
My Thoughts.....
Later,
John A.

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farmermatt

09-22-2004 05:44:36




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to TheRealRon, 09-22-2004 04:57:10  
Sounds like a reasonable plan barring outrageous cancer treatments if needed. But your plan reminds me of what gets to me most about health insurance. If you dont have it, you pay the full bill the hospital sends. Insurance companies have contract with their primary care providers to reduce the cost of procedures. As far as I can tell the insurance companies pay about 50-70% of what Ive been billed, provider rights off the rest.

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dhermesc

09-22-2004 06:14:11




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to farmermatt, 09-22-2004 05:44:36  
I would have agreed with you four years ago. I'm the 9th of twelve kids and my dad never had health insurance his entire life, he paid all the medical bills and we stayed away from doctors unless you where spraying blood or had a bone sticking out.

I paid health insurance premiums for 14 years and never once met my deductable. Far as I was concerned it was a scam too. Now I have a 5 year old son that had a normal birth and seemed perfectly normal until he was two, then he was diagnosed with epilepsy. That diagnosis pretty much turned our world on end. Medications average $1500 a month, doctor, specialist and hospital bills ran over $47,000 in the past two years.

Then to top it off last July his two year old brother fell off the back of a tricycle (standing on the seat) and smacked his head on the garage floor, never lost consciousness and seemed fine twenty minutes later. Four hours later I was speeding to a ER with him laying in the back seat - turned out he had fractured his skull and was bleeding into his brain. Life flighted to a children's hospital where he spent 5 days in ICU and then 4 days in a regular room. Total bill is still being tallied but it excedes $40,000. Some people complain about insurance being so high, I wonder how it can be so cheap.

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CRUSADER

09-22-2004 00:34:08




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to Ray, 09-21-2004 19:20:48  
You might want to give USAA a call. They might be able to hook you up on a policy that is affordable. I don't have health insurance at this time due to my employment. This is one of the "benifits" that is promised, and is supposed to carry over in retirement. Although I will have to get some type of a supplemental policy in the near future to help cover what Tricare doesn't when I retire. USAA has some very good policies for Health, Life, Auto and Home.

Jim

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John A.

09-21-2004 21:31:38




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to Ray, 09-21-2004 19:20:48  
Ray,Guys. I am , and hold and Life,Accident,Health License. Commonly known as a Group I license, Here in Texas. Health Insurance ,by the nature of the beast will always go up. There are too many varables now. To help safeguard yourself from future price increases Look at the HSA (health saveings accounts) policies. On your next policy. As long as you are somewhat young and in reasonable good health it is easy to swap new policies every 18 months. (Nal. Ave.) But there comes a point in time when a Pre-exisiting condition will stop you from getting a new policy, So you are forced to cut benefits are raise deductables.To keep the one you have. The HSAs allow you to save money in a side fund of the policy to use for the out of pocket expenses, (Dr.visits, Hosp ded, Rate increases!)
It will grow at the current % rate of growth.
You can put in around 2000/yr single,There are little to no tax libilities when used for, or in conjunction with your health policy.
Laws vary from State to State so visit with some one in your State.
There are no easy answers, Free Lunchs, Some one pays for it. Either your employer (Group policy) The local City, County Hospital District, or what ever. for the folks who can't or Won't pay.
As a self employed person ther are tax benefit too, visit with your account.
Ray , right now you are entering what I call the "B1tch years", Your premiums are going too continue to climb till your 65. Simply because it is now when most people start haveing health problems. I highly recomend you look into a HSA.
Anyway hope this helps.
Later,
John A.

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Davis In SC

09-21-2004 21:54:15




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to John A., 09-21-2004 21:31:38  
John, thanks for post, I have been thinking about a HSA..... It is something I plan to research this fall..... Thing that scares me about health insurance is Pre-Existing conditions.... Here in SC, health carriers stop doing business after about 5 years, & drop everyone. Then you have to find a new carrier. So far, I have been blessed with good health, & have no trouble securing new coverage. But, my fear is having problems, then present carrier leaving, & not being able to find a new carrier that is affordable. I can see how some people have to get a job at Wal-Mart just to get health coverage... Regards, Davis

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Coloken

09-21-2004 20:08:45




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to Ray, 09-21-2004 19:20:48  
Was glad when I reached 65, so I could get medicare. If a person can get declaired disabled by SS, then you qualify for medcare at any age. Maybe you got bad hands or some thing so you can't work??? My suplimental after medicare is 150 a month. PS. A ICD (pace maker with defibulator)was $154,000.



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kyhayman

09-21-2004 19:32:58




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to Ray, 09-21-2004 19:20:48  
I wish I did, thats the only reason I work off the farm. I feel for you, really do. That's about what mine runs in the group plan this year, spouse and I each get $265 a month toward it though (total is $10,200 for 3 of us, before the employer share). Next year we take a hit too, not as bad as yours but bad. Between price hike, deductibe, and decreased med coveraged going to increase our cost about $4000 a year.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-22-2004 04:26:09




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 Re: OT/ farm health insurance in reply to kyhayman, 09-21-2004 19:32:58  
Same reason I work "off farm". My employer agreed to pay all of my health ins. when I went to work here, 16-1/2 years ago. They're hedging on that idea now, but it looks like I'll keep it for now. The wife has insurance that will pick me up for (right now) at around $1200 a year, when I do retire. hers is good untill she turns 65. That'll make me 69, and old enough for medi-care. John



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