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Cody Pelfery

10-18-2004 09:56:22




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I am an Ag teacher, and my department has a JD 950. We mostly use it to mow, clean pens, etc. We constantly have flats. I have used the JD tire sealer and had really good results, but eventually it fails. Our country has a great deal of mesquites, and the thorns are what is giving us problems. Is there any way to permanently fix our flat problems? Also, we are planning on restoring a Ford 800, and I am wondering if there any good sources for restoration info that would be good for my classroom use. Preferably with lots of pictures, and very clear explanations.

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Dug

10-19-2004 18:22:51




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
Hey Cody,

Berryman produces a tire sealant second to none. Double the recommended application and repeat every two years.

Dug



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Cody Pelfery

10-18-2004 15:15:53




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
One of my student's families owns a tire shop. He said that I could put expanding foam in them, like the kind that seals cracks in your house. Has anybody heard of this? The tyrfil stuff sounds great, until you see the price. I can just imagine the look on the Principals face when he reads a requisition for that! The expanding foam idea is sounding pretty good, but perhaps too good to be true.

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Leland

10-18-2004 17:54:59




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 15:15:53  
Cody I have operated a lot of equip with foam in tires, and the only bad thing about it is the ride goes south and they don't work in deeper mud the sink like a rock. But in your case sounds like you stay mostly on solid ground so go for it ,will pay out quick in savings on repair bills.



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Cody Pelfery

10-19-2004 07:00:23




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Leland, 10-18-2004 17:54:59  
how much foam does it take?



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Leland

10-19-2004 12:40:38




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-19-2004 07:00:23  
Not being a smart butt, enough to fill tire. I don.t know how large your tires are but that foam really expands probley no more than 10 gals per rear tire (just a guess) and you should be good to go. and will make your loader tractor more stable adds about 750-1000 extra lbs to hold rear end down.



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Kendall

10-18-2004 12:17:52




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
You need aircraft tires. They have a zillion layers and made to run at 200psi. (probably wont need that much on a tractor!) I've heard others say they never got a flat after switching to them. Do a google search on "aircraft tires for tractors". The link below is one I've checked out in the past. There are probably many more sources.

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John17

10-18-2004 11:27:18




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
Have you thought about tryfil? This works great as it replaces the air in the tires with a poly type (2 Parts) of liquid that as it cures turns into a rubber type of substance. HTH



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Ramrod

10-18-2004 11:25:14




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
Two things come to mind --

Put a gallon of Green Slime in each rear tire. TSC has it for less than 20 bucks per gallon. Or, if you have the budget, get the tires filled with foam. They'll never go flat again, but it ain't cheap!

Ramrod



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earlschieb

10-18-2004 11:15:14




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
`Is there any way to permanently fix our flat problems? '

Yes, replace the tires and wheels with steel wheels, or maybe some of thoose Aircraft tires that I have been reading about on here.



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old

10-18-2004 11:12:41




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
They usto make tire liners that would help stop that problem, not sure if they still do but if you can find some it sure does help. You can also make your own by takeing a couple old tubes and cutting them open and lay them inside the tire and then put in the tube. What they do is rub off the shape points of the thorns and slow down the number of flats you have.



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Harold Sullivan

10-18-2004 11:09:05




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
Hi. For that Ford Classroom project. First and most important is the FORD 4 cylinder Tractor 1953/64 Parts List PA-8800-C printed April 1982. A full 1.5 inches thick book with pictures and part numbers for every part, I mean each and every part in exploded view form, every nut and bolt up to the engine to sheetmetal to options, decals, frame and electrical. Serious, a must have starting point.
I will be putting my copy up for auction in a few weeks, I am just using it now for listing info on some 801 and 881 parts I want to sell. Harold

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Sloroll

10-18-2004 10:45:10




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Cody Pelfery, 10-18-2004 09:56:22  
Hopefully I can respond to your question as I seem to be having trouble in that area today. My old IH 300 utility had the same problem when I was working with locust (thorn trees) Even when I was done and fixed the flats for the umpteenth time they would still go down. It turned that there were enough thorns broken off in the tires that I had to replace my tires. The broken off thorns just kept working into the tires as I rolled allong. Frustrating and expensive.

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Ray,IN

10-18-2004 21:49:10




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 Re: Tired of flats in reply to Sloroll, 10-18-2004 10:45:10  
Industrial tires have this annoying problem also. There is a product use to eliminate flats. I is a huge rubber foam donut that just barely fits into the tire, leaving just enough room for mounting. A tire may then be ran with or without air pressure in it. I think the tire must be secured to the rim with screws though.



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