There once was a website........

The re-occuring theme was "I have a GOD-given Right" to my freedom of speech. I can say whatever I choose, to whomever I choose. Accuracy suffered. Truth suffered. The informational value of the site fell of the map. It became a haven for trolls.

A good many people had put forth a lot of effort to create and maintain the site. Their work was lost.

Bottom line; A really good thing was gone for good, all because a couple &%@$ decided to show they could "take over" and run off those who made the site what it was.

I won't name the website. It has re-opened after a few years. (It IS a NASCAR site)

This site is slowly headed the same way. Just because one or two people want to force their beliefs on everyone else, the decline has started. It can be reversed. All it takes is a sense of decentcy to prevail. This is not an outhouse for outhouse peots to write on the wall with their latest words of wisdom. In case you haven't noticed, the OWNER of this site has taken exception to the comments and activities of the last few days. That alone SHOULD be enough to convince people to straighten up. Apparently not....

I fully expect this comment to draw fire....Probably from the same person(s) that I'm commenting on. Go right ahead. Shoot yourself in the foot. Just remember, you're a terrible aim, and you're shooting all the rest of us in the foot at the same time.

When i started posting on here, it was hands down the greatest site on the internet. The site is still top notch...Just the handfull of trolls that are hellbent on ruining the place are starting to make it not worth the trouble...

Those of you that this message DOESN'T apply to, you know who you are. And you know who I'm referring to.

Those that this DOES apply to, you know who YOU are also.

For all those who play by the rules, thanks. John

It's pretty easy to say you are going to move on. Not be part of the problem. But when you start another hateful post as this one, you've shown your true colors. How does that saying go, better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool....?

I would personally have off-topic jokes on here rather than this juvenile name calling that has went on. It proves no points. It shows no intelligence at all, let alone the ability to prove a point on merits alone. It has about as much class as someone who uses the f word 3 times per sentence.

Having said that, this moronic troll with no sense of humor will get off his soap box. I really hope this is enough to get this spiteful post deleted.

Recently, this site has been getting far too serious about topics that don't have any bearing on what SHOULD be the general topic of discussion.

I'm hoping that after the elkections are over, some of the siniping will die off. My other hope is that the average attention span of a "less-than-inteligent" individual will cause someone to get bored and go away.

If you will notice the "scorecard", It's decidedly in favor of those who want peace and harmony, vs. "troll". John

www.farms.com used to be a Canadian version of this type of web site. The folks there were more small homestead types, and had a thriving set of forums about machinery, goat raising, taking care of hay ground. A very well kept & large database of messages. Back 5 years ago it was perhaps more popular than this site.

They changed software, and decided to let 'anything go' - any and all messages. Self-policing.

Go there. Check out their forums. Must be a Canadian thing, they call them 'Chat areas' but it is not live chat, just forums like this. Bottom of the home page.

For anyone that cares about other's opinions, go there. Look at the type of messages they get, and how old they are.

That is what this place will turn into.

My opinion.

I agree with you totally Indy, you said that very well.

When trolls take over, that's all that is left on a site in short order. It's sad to see what Kim built being torn down so rapidly.

Well, at least I now have fond memories of realron - he was gruff & out there, but once in a while he brought something to the table.

--->Paul

Just ignore the person or persons that you're having difficuklty with. They will soon get bored and go away, as little children do when they can't play with their toys.

In fact, people like that should make you more determined than ever to stick with what you know is right.

No one is listening to the nonsense being posted by said person(s). It's evident from the replies that most everyone agrees with yours and my position. ONE person has chosin to reply in a negative manner....Guess who? YEP!

From this point on, I refuse to dignify his comments with a reply. Please do the same. No matter how dense, he'll finally get the picture. John

But the tangent you have taken this web site off on has not been appreciated by many folks, and is indeed offensive.

If you do not know that, take a look back in the archives a month & look how rich & full this place was of people & information.

Now it is just a bunch of wise-crackers. No info, no point to it.

There sure is a place & time for fun & off-tilt messages, but that had never been the sole _intent_ of this web site, and is not what most of the regulars (who have little choice but to leave or totally ignore all this) want.

If you are genuine in your comment, that's good. I don't want you to go away. But could you give a dam about anyone else???? If you are just rattling on to see yourself in type as some do now, oh well. I'm trying to be civil. You be whatever you are.

But rest assured, many of the newcomers are offensive. This used to be a fun place, where people could meet with their friends. Not any more. Thanks a whole bunch.

Do I sound fruistrated? You bet. I held my tounge about this for a month. I stayed away from the Tractor Talk page - let you boys have your fun.

But then several of you didn't have enough with that - seems you are bent on taking over all the web pages here, with pointless 'fun'.

What are the rest of us to do??? I'm not asking anyone to leave - sure not my place. But can you look at yourself, and look at the posts your friends have made here, and really think any of that is in good taste, or appreciated by anyone else?????

If you are serious, and you don't know it - yes it has been very offensive for the past month.

--->Paul

NO IT'S NOT. This is a privately owned website. There are standards. Those very standards are the reason MOST of us are here, and NOT on some teenage chat line. We DON'T like certain behavior. Neither does the OWNER of this site. Enough said....John

--Jeff

j-tex

Stan