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yak651

11-23-2004 19:39:35

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Do any of you use/recommend gas "lead" additives for use in old gasoline engines? Purchased a "67 case gas and was wondering what type of gas to use and if i should be adding anything.
Thanks!

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

11-27-2004 13:27:34

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Re: Gas additives in reply to yak651, 11-23-2004 19:39:35

A few years ago an engineer who worked for John Deere before he retired wrote an article in Woodenboat Magazine on the development of the V8 engines and their need for leaded fuel to prevent knocking.

His point was that all of the six cylinder engines up to the late sixties were designed to run on unleaded fuel. No additives were needed.

Marina operators stock only premium gas in Ontario, though, as the regular stuff is garbage since deregulation.

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Leland

11-24-2004 06:06:38

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to yak651, 11-23-2004 19:39:35

All we ever have used is 1 cup of non dert motor oil per tank for years, and never had problem 1, all you need to do is lube valves so this is the easist and cheapest way to do it.

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buickanddeere

11-24-2004 05:46:14

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to yak651, 11-23-2004 19:39:35

There is about 50 posts in the past year that can be found under search function. In short, the engine will run cleaner and last longer running unleaded. If your tractor has a Franklin or radial aircraft engine installed and regularly run it beyond cruise power. Than go to your local airport and purchase some 100 Low Lead. It has about 96 pump ocatane and costs about the same as automotive 94 octane premium.

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Big Iron Brian

11-24-2004 03:07:07

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to yak651, 11-23-2004 19:39:35

After thought: Yes, Cen-Pe-Co does have a website, and the product I'm refering to is "Genuine Lead"

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Big Iron Brian

11-24-2004 02:53:12

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to yak651, 11-23-2004 19:39:35

There is a product sold by Cen-Pe-Co, which is an actual tetra-ethylene additive, cost about a hundred dollars a case. which will treat about 300 gallons or more of pump gasoline. Depending on how high you want to increase octane. I've had good luck with it, special valve seats or not. It puts the snap back in those old gals! I don't know they have a website, though I'm sure they do. Good Luck! Big Iron

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paul

11-23-2004 20:22:52

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to yak651, 11-23-2004 19:39:35

I personally would save my money. A gas tractor needs a valve job every 5000 hours or so, and at that time put in hardened valve seats if there is a problem. You would be lots of money ahead not spending money on additives, and waiting for the overhaul.

Most likely, your tractor has been running unleaded for a couple decades now anyhow.

In the old days, tractors were designed to run on a rather poor grade of fuel anyhow, so it is no big deal to the engine. The only minor issue is a slight increased wear on the valves on some machines, and this can be dealt with more cheaply by upgrading the engine when the time comes.

--->Paul

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Jay (ND)

11-24-2004 08:07:11

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to paul, 11-23-2004 20:22:52

Finally an intelligent answer on this topic.

If you work the snot out of your tractor, yea, maybe an additive would be ok. But as Paul says, you are going to have to do the valves eventually anyways.

Get the crop off Paul?

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paul

11-24-2004 10:50:26

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to Jay (ND), 11-24-2004 08:07:11

Couldn't reach 5 bu or so in the spring that formed in the valley - combined one morning when it was 20 degrees, but the spring kept the ground warm.... Deer food now - done. Got 8 acres to plow yet, today or Friday. Got real wet last week, .7" of rain which does not go away this time of year, too cold & nothing growing to use it.

--->Paul

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Jay (ND)

11-24-2004 18:01:47

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to paul, 11-24-2004 10:50:26

Sounds like it is here - we better hope for a nice hard freeze before we get much snow to insulate the ground otherwise it's going to be a real wet spring.

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sammy the RED

11-23-2004 20:01:50

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to yak651, 11-23-2004 19:39:35

You can use regular 87 octane without any lead additives.

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steveormary

11-23-2004 20:59:35

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Re: Gas aditives in reply to sammy the RED, 11-23-2004 20:01:50

Yak651

I gave up on lead additives 5-6 years ago.

Started adding Sta-Bil to gas. Plugs didnt foul as bad.

steveormary

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