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ford truck- radius arm bushing???

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BLW

12-07-2004 06:44:53




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anyone= does any body know of a way to replace the rear radius arm bushing ( the one in front of the bracket) with out taking every thing apart et. a split bushing or a way to jack the arm forward enough to get the rubber in also looking for a place to buy split steering arm boots for duetz allis tractors. BLW




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jim

12-08-2004 05:33:59




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to BLW, 12-07-2004 06:44:53  
On mine I jacked it up, took the nut off the top of the shock, took out the spring, then took out the bolt under the spring that holds the arm in place. Easy to remove. May have to pull axel ahead but moves much easier. There are a couple different grades of bushing replacements, depending where you go. Some are the old rubber style and there is also the hard plastic looking type.



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Redmud

12-07-2004 18:16:11




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to BLW, 12-07-2004 06:44:53  
Blw, Do NOT drill out, or grind the rivets to remove the brackets. Bolts will NOT hold the brackets like the rivets. If they would, Ford would bolt them on. Do as John A said... I have replaced lots of radius arm bushings. I have never removed a bracket from a frame rail. A come-a-long will pull the beam forward enough to replace the bushings. And shame on you guys for telling Blw to remove the brackets from the frame rail. Redmud

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big fred

12-08-2004 09:09:13




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to Redmud, 12-07-2004 18:16:11  
On my Ranger, the brackets were bolted when I got it. Don't know if it came that way from the factory. It only has 170K miles, so I don't know what kind of long-term problems I'll experience.



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Redmud

12-08-2004 16:47:38




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to big fred, 12-08-2004 09:09:13  
Big Fred, If your truck already had bolts, I would understand removeing the brackets. But to drill out the rivets to do this job is just plain dumb. It would take you longer to drill out the rivets, and dress up the holes and install bolts, than it takes to do this job. It"s really not a hard job to replace the bushings. And in my part of the country, these ranch trucks crossing ten or fifteen cattle guards a day better have rivets in the brackets.
Redmud:

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Dr.Evil

12-09-2004 09:41:27




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to Redmud, 12-08-2004 16:47:38  
It's in My HELMS official FORD Service Manuals (same one's My dealership has) that bolts are approved for replacing rivets in the frames. Directions get fairly detailed about grade, length, and size of bolts, types of washers, etc.... On Son's truck the rivets must have been 12mm. 7/16" bolts were sloppy, 1/2" wouldn't fit... so We bored each hole out as We ground the heads flush & punched the rivets out one-at-a-time so the bracket maintains alignment. Truck is a '93 F-150 LIGHTNING..... They're REAL hard on those bushings....

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Dr.Evil

12-07-2004 13:49:54




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to BLW, 12-07-2004 06:44:53  
We put ALL new bushings in Son's '93 Ford Lightning two years ago. We removed the bracket and drilled out the rivet holes & replaced them with 1/2" grd #5 bolts and hardened washers. Not a bad job except for laying on cold concrete. Took maybe an hour per side including removing the center pivot bushing & replacing the arm. We left the shocks attached since that was about all that was holing the axle to the truck!

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txblu

12-07-2004 16:16:43




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to Dr.Evil, 12-07-2004 13:49:54  
Thanks dude. You lent some credibility to my statements. Hear you on lying on the cold floor. Been there too many times.

Best,

Mark



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big fred

12-08-2004 09:06:39




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to txblu, 12-07-2004 16:16:43  
I've taken to lying on a layer or two of cardboard, mostly from refrigerator or appliance boxes. That little bit of insulation makes a world of difference. Keeps my clothes cleaner, too.



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big fred

12-07-2004 07:39:29




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to BLW, 12-07-2004 06:44:53  
I did that job on a Ranger by removing the bracket from the frame, but I don't know how much of a job that is for a full-size Ford.



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John A.

12-07-2004 07:21:34




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to BLW, 12-07-2004 06:44:53  
BLW, First place your truck behide a truck or tractor, post, whatever.
1..Now jack up the truck.
2..Remove lower shock bolt.
3..Remove radioud arm nut, washer and rear rubber bushing.
4..jack the the truck somemore so the Twin I assembly hangs as low as possible.
5..Wrap a small chain around the twin I beam out near thee spindle, (note don't get into the brake lines or other things that might be damaged.
6.. a fix a Come-a-long to the tractor, truck, post in front of the truck you are working on.
7..Hook the hook of the Come-a-long to the small chain on the twinI assembly.
8..take up the slack in the cable. pull the twinI assembly forward till the threads of the radious arm clear the mount.
9..remove the old front part of the bushing. Then install the new bushing.
10.. Reverse this process.
Hope this helps.
Later,
John A.

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RJ-AZ

12-07-2004 18:50:28




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to John A., 12-07-2004 07:21:34  
And the prize goes to John A. That is similar to what I do only I am in a full blown shop on a twin post lift. I use a small chain pull and a tall support screw jack and remove the shock bolt and the bottom bolt for the coil spring.



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Tim...OK

12-07-2004 09:12:06




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to John A., 12-07-2004 07:21:34  
I have done it exactly like John A. says,just make sure things are secure and what your fingers(grin)

Tim



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mike texas

12-07-2004 07:02:57




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to BLW, 12-07-2004 06:44:53  
It has been a few years. Maybe 5 but I am almost positive I just loosened the nut on the end of the radius arm and was able push the arm forward enough to slip the new one on this was a 79 bronco passengers side, a few weeks later I did the other side. but I know I did not remove the bracket.
I also remember it wasn’t to bad a job.



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txblu

12-07-2004 06:53:28




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to BLW, 12-07-2004 06:44:53  
I have watched commercial installers do it and they grind the head off one side of the rivet and drive it out, thus removing the whole bracket. Then install a new bracket which they bolt in that includes the bushing. Seems there is a kit for it.

On the pass side the exhaust system hinders the process.

As I recall, years ago I attempted it and it was a real bear.....just trying to replace the bushing. Don't remember if I won or lost.

Mark

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Stumpy

12-08-2004 15:11:05




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 Re: ford truck- radius arm bushing??? in reply to txblu, 12-07-2004 06:53:28  
Iused to work for a large school bus company, we had tons of E-350 vans. Some had the brackets riveted on others were bolted on, as a matter of fact you mentioned the exhaust getting in the way! Man are you right, The 7.3L diesels right side pipe was almost on the bolt heads which Ford put on from the inside of the rail to the outside. That was not a better idea. I almost want to think that the heavy duallies had the bolts while the lighter sigle wheel jobs had the rivets. I am positive the bolts would have been grade 8 or better.

I used to pick up the front end with a roll around end lift, if they were riveted on I would use a legnth of chain and a small load binder to pull the axle beam forward, moved just enough. We found the plactic style bushings that Ford went to as being the most durable.

That's my .02 have fun :)

Stumpy

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