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Davis D.

01-09-2005 17:10:35




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I am in the process of desigining a new shop building. It will have an approx. 50'x60' shop and have a shed area for parking my tractors and trucks. What would you design or put in a dream shop building. Any and all ideas are welcome.
Thanks




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JWhite

01-10-2005 11:05:44




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Davis D., 01-09-2005 17:10:35  
A large barn with an upper work area big enough for small projects and hiding. The main area would have pleanty of lights and outlets, a small wood stove for coffee, a refrigerator, a clean water source, a half concrete (for the shop part) half dirt (for the tractors) floor, a screaned in porch built to hold a hammock, and a good sized extention over the big entrance.



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Weirsdale George

01-10-2005 14:03:15




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to JWhite, 01-10-2005 11:05:44  
JWhite wrote. "a half concrete (for the shop part) half dirt (for the tractors) floor." The problem with a half dirt floor is that every time you walk across it, you will kick up a lot of dust. My shop is 2/3 concrete and 1/3 washed pea gravel over a 15 mil visqueen vapor barrier for the steel wheel and crawler tractors.



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JWhite

01-11-2005 14:00:27




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Weirsdale George, 01-10-2005 14:03:15  
I haven't pea graveled it yet. I am thinking of how to overdo the screaned porch with a hammock and the upstares hiding place.



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Weirsdale George

01-09-2005 22:57:49




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Davis D., 01-09-2005 17:10:35  
1) 200 Amp service. I have a dedicated meter for my shop building -- it costs me an extra $9 per month for a meter charge, but it is well worth it as I have very good power and if anything happens to the incoming wiring, it's the power company's problem. 2) Figure out how many power outlets you want and double it.
3) Figure out how many air drops you want and double it.
4) Build in skylights for daytime use. Do some research as for additional lighting -- there are a lot of lighting systems out there, some good and some bad for shop use.
5) Add toilet and shower.
6) I constructed a paint booth inside my shop. One of the best things I ever did. Don't have to worry about overspray and I have a "clean room" for engine assembly and such.
7) If you have any future plans for having machine shop equipment, reinforce the floor in that area.
8) Keep interior walls to a minimum -- they cut down the versatility of the space.
9) Install exhaust fans in each gable.
10) Add an exterior carport for really dirty work like power washing, etc.
11) Telephone.

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kyhayman

01-09-2005 19:08:53




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Davis D., 01-09-2005 17:10:35  
First of all, you asked for what my dream shop had, not what I use now :-). Dimensions that you describe, metal, pole fram with trussed roof. I-B tracks for chain hoists designed to move anything I have from any point to any other. Hydraulic fold bay doors on the end and side. Concrete floor with heat and outside steam boiler. At least 1 drive over floor drain to waste oil tank.

While we are at it, pleanty of power, pleanty of compressed air at every point. Eye bolt pull point anchors in the floor.

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PD

01-09-2005 18:54:13




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Davis D., 01-09-2005 17:10:35  
Just finished a 26'x50' garage. I used 2x6 frame construction set on 16 inch centers. I built it with a gambrel roof, with a 14'x50' room upstairs. Six inch insulation in the lower walls. Four inch insulation in the upper story. Metal roof with foam insulation as a vapor barrier. Concrete garage floor, with no sealer, as I have yet to find a sealer/coating that doesn't peel and make a bigger mess than just using good housekeeping methods to start with. 200 amp electrical service, with forced air hot water electric heat. 300 watt Pioneer stereo (circa 1973) with 300 CD jukebox, reel-to-reel tape deck, eight track tape deck, casette deck, record player, four speakers. Satellite 32 inch RCA tv. Thermal pane windows and insulated 16 foot overhead garage door with opener. It houses two Buicks from the 60's, my '73 Chevy truck, my old Fergie, and assorted lawn equipment. Upstairs, I have my office, old electronic shop, and storage for parts, etc. Costs about $30 a month to heat in south western Missouri. Only thing I would do over is to put a shingle roof on instead of metal. Lots quieter and looks better, in my opinion. Thanks for listening and all the best..... ...P

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RJ-AZ

01-09-2005 18:22:14




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Davis D., 01-09-2005 17:10:35  
Helped a friend build and set up a shop two years ago. Now bear in mind this is a open Arizona shop but the main floor is 30" X 50". We put a 5" square tube in as the mid-center support and made up a jib crane that can swing 270 degrees.We took a 4"x 6"X 1/2" piece of plate and made a workbench that wraps around the tube and diagonal braces. This mounts the vise, bench grinder and drill press. The post has air, water and elect on it also.

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Redd

01-09-2005 17:46:16




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Davis D., 01-09-2005 17:10:35  
I builtmy 40 x 64 in 92 and can offer only my opinions. First if its a wood pole barn you are better off to go with 8' increments on account of you have to put that pole in any ways. I was going to 40x60 and the guy at the lumbr yard pointed out that it was the same nunmber of pole with 64, just 4 more feet of shed, so I went to 64. I went 14' high instead of 12. At the time I couldn't afford 16' but now I wish I had found some money and went 16'. I have upstairs storeage but its alittle low. I buried 2 heavy threaded nut assemblies in the concrete in line with the door one in front one in back. to anchor and pull down. I used them once to straighten a frame on a car, it worked great.
Now... if it was my dream? Heat in the floor, full six inch insulated walls, white metal inside, full second story parts storage, all roll up doors no sliders, painted or epoxy floors, leanto sides in each direction for storage, overhead beam and trolley.

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J. Schwiebert

01-09-2005 18:53:18




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Redd, 01-09-2005 17:46:16  
I agree with what you said on the burried rod. I had a little better luck. They had a 12 foot I beam at work they were getting rid of. We burried it so the top is even with the floor and there are three places where we fixed a 4 inch PVC pipe so we can tie a log chain through and then also place a jack or two on the beam. Another thing we did is we burried a four foot length of PVC pipe in the floor so if we ever need to press on a long shaft, the shaft can extend down into the floor.

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will in Tx./Mn./ USA

01-09-2005 21:05:08




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to J. Schwiebert, 01-09-2005 18:53:18  
J. Schwiebert,

Could you be more specific describing the

"places where we fixed a 4 inch PVC pipe so we can tie a log chain through and then also place a jack or two on the beam."

~Will



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J.Schwiebert

01-10-2005 09:41:06




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to will in Tx./Mn./ USA, 01-09-2005 21:05:08  
About one foot from each end of the I-beam and then one in the middle we placed 4 inch PVC pipe next to the I beam. The PVC pipe extends below the floor and below the I-beam. It is a closed loop (like the letter U and we have a 3/8 log chain in each one. We can either hook another chain or chains to these or use a Clevis(s) to hook other attachments to this. I f you want a picture I will send one to you later this week. I got the idea from a friend of mine who did that.

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will in Tx./Mn./ USA

01-10-2005 21:06:43




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to J.Schwiebert, 01-10-2005 09:41:06  
J. Schwiebert,

Thanks for explaining it to me,i can see it now,good idea

~Will



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mattd

01-09-2005 17:45:11




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 Re: Ideas for new shop building in reply to Davis D., 01-09-2005 17:10:35  
first i would divide it in half with a wall and sliding doors. then insulate the half with the door. then that would be heated. i would make an upstairs part that would hold all of my spare parts. then of course a couch, fridge, t.v., and computer to get onto ytmag.com in case i have a question. then maybe a floor drain for powerwashing my tractors inside.



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