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Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type

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Jimmiee

01-18-2005 09:10:17

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Guys,
Need your help...wanting to haul my 720D around to some shows and also haul other misc item, lumber, tile, etc. ALso may do some cross state line tractor hauling for freinds from time-to-time...maybe 2 times per year...may have 2 smaller tractos when this happens.

Debating wheter to get a gooseneck trailer for my F250 or the regular bumper type.

What are the pros and cons of the gooseneck type.
I am also debating whether to get a 16 - 20 foot or a 24-26 foot trailer...I like the beaver tail design. Have heard many people who have a shorter trailer wish they had a longer one...but I dont want a beast if I only may haul 2 tractor every now and then.
WHat are your thoughts?

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candmfarm

01-19-2005 16:04:07

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

I would agree with the majority--I have both and wouldn't haul my JD 730D with the BP. GN gives you so many more options and gets borrowed almost never. I keep the BP for picking up hay and parade's.

Mike

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SprintCarCowboyJoe

01-19-2005 06:31:43

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

I would almost always choose a GN over a BP anyday for some that is either Large or Heavy. I would also avoid like the plague the Pop-UP GN Hitch! I have a friend that owns a trailer place is he has had NOTHING but trouble with them. I would go with the B&W TurnOverBall hitch. Cant say enough good about them. You can usually find them on Ebay for around $300.00

Joe

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VaSlim

01-18-2005 20:15:56

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

I know you didn't ask but like someone said below - make sure you get brakes on all wheels whichever type you get. In a routine stop the F250's brakes (assuming you've got the super duty not the city truck version) will probably stop everything just fine but with all the idiots and animals out there panic stops are going to happen. I know a guy who sheared all the lug bolts off a rear axle trying to stop a gooseneck load of hay with an F350 super duty.

Get the best controller you can get, preferably one that varies the voltage with the pressure you put on your brake pedal or your truck speed however they're doing it these days. I've got an old Tekonsha that is activated by the brake pressure going to my rear brakes. Sure makes for a smooth stop.

If that F250 has an automatic, get one of the extended transmission pans for more fluid. Might also want to try the snowplower's trick of adding an in-line transmission fluid cooler between the transmission and the radiator cooler to dissipate some of the heat before it gets to the radiator area.

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jhill

01-18-2005 14:09:34

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

I have a 22 ft tilt deck bumper pull trailer that I really like. It has torsion axles that take out the bounce. It was a $3200 trailer and is really well built. I can back it anywhere I want and it goes down the road loaded as smooth as you could ask for. In Mi you can only haul 10,000 lbs total unless you have a CDL so I can't haul 2 full size tractors legally anyways.

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farmalljim10

01-18-2005 13:57:06

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

Well unlike most people I really likre my bumper pulls and I have a few I hauled a 9000+lbs dozer 500 miles on my 16 foot dovetail and at interstate speeds but for smaller tractors I have a 16 ft with fold down gate my dozer trailer 16 foot,weighs 3000 lbs by it self ,pintal hitch .My smaller 16 foot ,weight 1500 lbs with 2 inch ball.I also have a RV that is bumber pull also 28 foot we love it in the summer time went to Mount Rushmore last year and a small 4x8 trailer for wood and 4 wheeling all bumper pulls...5th wheelers are great but I dont want to lose my truck bed thats for generators and tractor parts...Last vaciation I picked up a wide front and power steering unit and brought it back home ..If you want my advice get what you want and can affored but please get brakes ,electric brakes on all wheels that is the only thing that you will be sorry for because 5 wheel or bumper pull they all have their diferent advantages and disadvantages...

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KENT

01-18-2005 12:00:12

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ABOUT THE PLUS'S OF A GOOSE NECK---ANOTHER BIG PLUS IS THAT MOST ALL OF THE TRAILER BORROWIN' BUMS CAN'T PULL ONE & IT WILL BE THERE WHEN YOU NEED IT---JUST MY .02 WORTH

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Tim...OK

01-18-2005 12:27:28

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to KENT, 01-18-2005 12:00:12

Kent, That was the deciding factor for me,I came home from work needing to use my bumper pull trailer to find it missing..My dad had loaned it to my nephew without telling me,hasn't happened since..(grin)

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DLM

01-18-2005 11:14:23

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

Go with a gooseneck trailer but use a 5th wheel type hitch Don

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leland

01-18-2005 12:41:28

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to DLM, 01-18-2005 11:14:23

I rather like the GN balls that you pull pin and turn the ball over and that way you can still slide things in bed like plywood and and not have ball in way

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Jimmy King

01-18-2005 11:13:52

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

If you ever pull a Gooseneck you will never go back to a bumper hitch. More stability, truck doesn"t possom hunt as bad.

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paul

01-18-2005 10:52:05

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

Bumper is great up to 6000# - cheap & simple. Small stuff.

For your loads & size, goose it.

--->Paul

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acmfmh

01-18-2005 10:38:16

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

We have 3 trailers. All gooseneck. Horsetrailer that is 34 foot, dump trailer that is 12 foot, and a 22 foot flatbed. Much easier to pull and move were you want them. We have 2 chevy 2500HD and a 3500.

I really like the Una-Goose hitch. B&W has many options, but the Una-Goose is rated to 40k. 10k over the B&W. But, both are nice hitches.

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Averyman

01-18-2005 10:36:46

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

For safety, weight distribution, and maneuvrability you can"t beat a gooseneck. Get the 5th wheel version if possible, I changed mine over from a ball type last year after being hasseled about safety chains. 5th wheel type is more secure and easier to hook up. Had a bumper hitch camper once but didn"t keep it very long, worried every time we took it on a trip...

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Tim...OK

01-18-2005 10:17:28

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

The only disadvantage I can see to goosenecks is losing the bed when your hauling,small price to pay in my opinion.. I have both types and I'll go for the GN everytime..I can put the larger GN trailer in places I can't even think about putting my smaller bumper pull,cause I can jack it around 90+ degrees even with an extended cab dually.. Mine is 20' deck with 2 ft dovetail.

Tim

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rickm

01-18-2005 10:10:28

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

I have a 17/3 dove tail bumper hitch that I haul my 1954 '70 tricycle on...occasionally . I pull it with a 2002 2500 HD Chev and I have my hands full. I went with the bumper hitch because of the deal I got ($1800 vs $2700 for the goose neck). If I had it to do over, I'd go with the goose neck. You'll be close to 11,000 lb loaded with your 720D (and trailer )and that's too close for a 12,000 lb hitch. Just my "wish-that-I-had-done-it-different"

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BillKY

01-18-2005 09:57:55

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

Bumper hitch trailers are OK, but if you're planning on using a trailer very much, a gooseneck will make you much happier.

Gooseneck trailers will let you scale some weight on the front axle of your truck. That makes for a safer, better balanced load.

You DON'T get the bobbing up and down with a gooseneck that you do with a bumper hitch.

Also, there is a greater weight rating on gooseneck hitch's than with ball-type "bumper hitchs" (recievers)

About the only real advantage (if you see it that way) is bumper hitch trailers are a lot less expensive.

As far as size; I'd go with as big as you feel comfortable pulling. Too big just means room left over. Too small means a second trip.

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Mike M

01-18-2005 09:53:32

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

I have a 25 foot gooseneck that's 20 foot of deck and 5 foot of beavertail thats a real good size to haul 2 tractors on even 3 if things are just right. ++'s of a gooseneck are for me you don't have to be so fussy about weight placement,expansion joints in the rough roads don't jerk you around as bad,turn tighter so you can back up better and jockey around,you can haul more as you are able to transfer more weight to the truck.--'s ? you do loose some bed space in the truck to haul back those basket cases,can't put a slide in camper and pull the trailer too. If you go gooseneck be sure to get yourself a hitch that you can pull a lever and get the ball out of the way B & M makes a good one.

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old

01-18-2005 09:34:06

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jimmiee, 01-18-2005 09:10:17

Myself I like the 5th wheel type even more then a goose neck. But that said the gooseneck will be rated for a higher load and is easyer to use then a bumper pull type. The goose neck also does a better job of putting weight where you want it on your truck. The bumper type lifts the front end of your truck up and can depending on the load make the front end act funny and not in a good way. The reason I like 5th wheel is because I'm a retired trucker, and with 5th wheel no safety chains are needed but on the other 2 you have to have them

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

01-18-2005 13:07:18

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to old, 01-18-2005 09:34:06

I like to keep things dry in the bed of my truck with a cap and I don't want to have to remove it all the time. A bumper type works good for me. An 18 foot heavy duty triaxel will haul all my super duty wants and can stop safely for me.

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HUSKY

01-18-2005 15:44:57

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 01-18-2005 13:07:18

I BOUGHT A H&H BUMPER PULL TRAILER 22FT LONG TILT BED 12000LB AND I LOVE IT WHILE LOOKING FOR THIS I SPOKE WITH MANY PEOPLE 1.IF YOU BREAK DOWN YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND SOMEONE TO PULL IT./A GOOSENECK YOU CANNOT 2. WEIGHT IS AN ISSUE I CANNOT PULL OVER 10000LB SO I BOUGHT A HEAVIER TRAILER BUT DOWN RATED IT (only600lb different from 10000lb trailer ) 3. BED IS NOT FILLED UP ALLOWING ME TO USE THIS SPACE DECIDE WHAT YOU LIKE CHECK AROUND MANY PRICES STYLES COLORS THERE ARE DRAWBACKSTO ALL TRAILERS REGARDS HUSKY

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David B

01-18-2005 17:33:42

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to HUSKY, 01-18-2005 15:44:57

Is that the H&H in Braddyville, Iowa? I"m not far from there.
Sold a tractor to a guy in TN last spring, he had an H&H and it was a different company.
Just curious.

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HUSKY

01-18-2005 18:22:59

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Re: Trailers: Gooseneck vs. Bumper type in reply to David B, 01-18-2005 17:33:42

I HAD TO LOOK IT UP BUT THAT IS WHERE IT CAME FROM ALTHOUGH I BOUGHT IT NEW THOUGH A DEALER IN PENNSYLVANIA WHERE I LIVE REAL NICE TRAILER LITTLE $$ BUT WELL WORTH EVERY $$$$$$ HUSKY

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