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How do you plow snow with your tractor??

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Davefr

01-23-2005 12:17:00




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I have a JD1070 (4WD) and it has a loader on the front and a scraper blade on the back. We don't get much snow but when we do it can be wet and deep. I've got about 1/4 mile of gravel road to deal with to get to the highway.

The loader doesn't seem to help much because I need to push it aside vs. dig out.

If I rotate my scraper blade at an angle and plow in reverse I tend to dig into the gravel road and make a mess.

I thought about making some skids for the scraper blade to keep it from digging in.

How would you plow snow with the setup I have??? I need some tips. TIA.

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Gene Davis (Ga.)

01-25-2005 02:16:09




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
Very slowly with my front Dig-It brand loader/backhoe every 10-12 years or so here in central Georgia. On a serious note you will need skids or gauge wheels to keep it from digging into your road, Gene Davis



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bad mechanic

01-24-2005 13:16:41




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
I use my Model M, a bucket on the front and a blade on the back. Turn the blade 30 degrees and creep down the lane. It is a 1/4 mile road mix, curves all directions. This has worked well in up to 18" of snow. The road is clear and makes for easy travel for our automobiles. So far no problems.



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Joe Evans

01-24-2005 11:27:51




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
I use a Kubota L-275 to maintain my 1/4 mile by 15' wide drive. On back is a Woods RB6 set at about 30 deg angle with the lift arms sucked over to right side with the adjustment turnbuckles about 6" off center. Put 'er in 6th gear, lower the blade so it lightly kisses the chip & seal surface and let it rip.

My first pass is going downhill so when I encounter some heavy deposits of drifting, I can blow thru this. The next pass going uphill is a bit dicey as the Kubota wants for weight and traction. Central Ohio has been rather tame snow-wise the past three years. The old times of really opening up the drive are past due. It's been years since I've had to put the chains on for some real man-size snow removal. I also got a loader for it two years ago so I'd be ready for those times when I used to tell my wife "I hope it doesn't snow anymore; I've got no place else to put the snow." Since I got the loader...well...it figures. No afternoon-long adventures--me against mother nature. I rarely back-bladed before I had the loader. I will probably not back blade at all in the future.

My brother plows with our 504 and a fast hitch 8' blade. He puts it in 4th and whacks the throttle open. At that speed the snow seems to fly off the angle of the blade--much like a commercial road plow. The 38" rubber on the 504 fascinates me with its ability to get that tractor thru heavy-going without even sneezing. Two sets of rear weights don't hurt anything either.

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Bill Wisconsin

01-23-2005 19:20:34




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
I like to drive forward, blade angled 30 degrees to right and if your blade offsets, do so to the right. I'd run with loader above snow or use for drifts. Lengthen top link an inch or so if it digs in. Blades will always dig more backing up that pulling forward. I get stiff in the neck and back while backing, so I drive forward on my 1/4 mile driveway. I went from your set up to a nice warm pickup with hydraulic plow and now plow in shirt sleeves while listening to the 'toons. I also have a front mounted snow blower on my 860 Ford when banks are too high and like back in 1999, I had to get out the TLB to widen the path and built up 10 foot banks on both sides the other 1/8 mile end of the drive. The last 2 years I also used the backhoe to better slope the ridge on one side and the bank on the other side so now mother nature blows most of the snow right on over and past my drive and puts it down in the fence row! Winter is fun up here in Wisconsin.

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Hayman

01-23-2005 19:09:26




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
I use a 825 Belarus 80HP with MFD. I built a 8ft blade for the loader that can be angled to the right if needed. Pushed snow today again but it was wet and sticky stuff.



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Dave From MN

01-23-2005 17:41:48




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
I have a 544 farmall with a 2001 loader with about a 8 foot snow bucket and a 7 foot rear blower. I have a 1/2 mile drive out i the open and just got done dealing with a ton of snow. I put the loader down and barrel right down the middle till I get to the end, then I bolw the sides awat , works sweet. Sick of snow already had 3-4' drifts all over. wanted to get by with out chains this year but dont look that way.

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Jim Nauert

01-23-2005 16:39:56




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
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I like to plow snow with my 57 420W and a six foot back blade.



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Butcher

01-23-2005 16:38:02




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
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I know this will not help you but, this is how I REMOVE snow from a half mile long lane. Out here in the flat lands if you use a blade it makes wind rows that get pretty deep.

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Hugh MacKay

01-23-2005 16:36:30




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
Dave: Snowstorms are much like people, everyone of them different. Over the years I've plowed snow with a dozen different machines and configurations of buckets and blades. One thing I would stay away from is an angle blade in place of your loader bucket. I've seen more loader frames twisted from angle snow blades than I would care to mention. I know they are building the loaders better for that today, but man has also added 4 wheel drive.

So lets start from where your at. I gather your loader bucket is not as wide as tractor. A friend of mine has a Kubota similar size to your tractor. He uses a snow bucket on his loader, about 4 to 6 inches wider than tractor. He then offsets his 3 point blade so it goes out 3' past right side of tractor. He plows driving forward, loader bucket down clearing tractor path. The loader bassically has it's own shoes by controling tilt of bucket His 3 point blade is equiped with adjustable shoes behind blade. He sets these so rear blade scrapes clean. The rear blade acts almost like the wing on large commercial plows.

What I like about his setup, is if he encounters drifts, wet snow, etc., he can still use loader to push and pile snow leaving rear blade raised for a counter weight. This particular setup gives you great versitility for many situations. I don't think you need to spend a lot of money to be happy with your machine.

Personally I have a front mounted angle blade, under front axle type of plow. Not bad but I cant pile snow very well if going gets tough. I soon run out of space to pile snow. In my life time I've plowed snow with everything from a Farmall Super A, 130, 300, 560, 656, Case skid loaders, John Deere articulated forestry skidder and 250 hp Champion road grader. Every one of them had good points and bad points. My advice, is keep it simple and inexpensive, snow's going to melt in 3 months anyhow. Most snow plowing devices aren't worth having around unless you have other year around use for them.

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Paul D

01-23-2005 20:07:20




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-23-2005 16:36:30  
I like to use a Case 500 triple range, with a 7'6" western snow plow on the front. It has hydraulic swing and lift, the plow has the trip springs for safety, when we plow off the drive way. If the Case gets stuck our John Deere 350B plows snow with out a problem, its just a little slower.



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Jonboy

01-23-2005 18:03:03




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-23-2005 16:36:30  
Yee haw, nothing quite beats a snow removal tool like a skidder, just drop the blade down and go, don't have to worry about getting stuck even in waist deep snow. I took foresty in school, they had a JD 440C cable skidder with chains on all 4 wheels, didn't have to worry about getting stuck in snow with that, and even if you did it had that big winch on the back to get itself out. We'd plow a road with it for the tractor on our way out to the woods, just drop the front blade down and go, we'd drive all the way across an open meadow and all the way to the woods like that and never stop. I do miss that.

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Hugh MacKay

01-23-2005 18:17:39




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Jonboy, 01-23-2005 18:03:03  
Jon: Mine was a Deere 540A, and I had an 11' snow blade that fitted over the log blade. Put your cable around 1/2 cord of wood, pick it up into logging arch. 10' drifts wouldn't stop that machine. In many respects it was better than the Champion road grader. Champion might push a bit more snow in good going, but you could get in trouble very easily. I have never seen the Deere in trouble. 540A was Deere 8 speed power shift, very productive plowing snow.

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Bill R

01-23-2005 19:29:10




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-23-2005 18:17:39  
Nice to know someone else plows snow with the John Deere 540A, ours still goes to work logging every morning. Good machine. We break a track with regular forestry blade and cleanup with IH 966 with 8ft. rear blade.

Bill R



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Jonboy

01-23-2005 18:50:16




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-23-2005 18:17:39  
We just had the regular forestry blade the skidder comes with. It wouldn't clean a clean strail as snow would shortly begin to pile up over the top of the blade, but it would clear a path well enough the schools 4wd tractor to follow along behind. It had canadian ring chains on the front wheels (some people call them bearpaws) and ice pick chains on the rear. We'd use that skidder in waste deep snow and it wouldn't be bothered, even going up ledges. Only complaint was that skidder was awful tippy, had it up on two wheels quite aften, and once, had 3 wheels off the ground :'))

Was that snow blade something you made?.

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770

01-23-2005 15:53:51




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
Ever entertain the idea of a 3 pt snowblower???



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JWhite

01-23-2005 15:45:27




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
Be nice if yall add a few more pics of the snow work for those of us who just wait a few hours for it to melt.



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felix

01-23-2005 15:15:13




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
i have a 1050 with bucket loader and i use the bucket. you set the loader in the float position set the bucket roughly level if you have ice keep it tipped a lil forward if not about level if it looks like its gonna start to dig tip it back a lil and it'll glide right over it. sounds difficult but a few passes and you'll be a master my yard is all dirt and grandma's is gravel havent dug up yet otherwise the best thing would be mount a snowplow on it. i made a frame for my 2510 diesel used an old 72 fisher 6 1/2 ft plow works good too

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Brad S

01-23-2005 17:32:19




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to felix, 01-23-2005 15:15:13  
Felix Do you have any pictures of your 2510 plow setup? I would like to put one on my 2510. e-mail me. Thanks Brad



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old

01-23-2005 13:49:31




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
I made a 9 foot wide V-plow for my loader, I have a mile of gravel drive way to clear when we get snow, plus my parents drive so it ends up being about a mile and 3/4 and the V plow works just great. I use a Ford 801 and run in 3rd gear and just one pass and I'm done



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bigblue

01-23-2005 19:57:57




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to old, 01-23-2005 13:49:31  
"OLD" do you have any pictures or description on how you made the V-plow? Seems like that would help with the side-pushing problem when using a regular front or rear angle blade and a 2WD tractor.



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old

01-23-2005 21:22:57




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to bigblue, 01-23-2005 19:57:57  
Thats why I made it a V, I never have problems with the front end tring to go left or right. Also haveing it up front most of the time I don't need chains since the rear tires run on cleared road. Drop me an e-mail and or go to the tractor photos and I will repost a few pictures there.



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Pajamafied John

01-23-2005 13:36:41




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
Turn the 3 point blade so the cupped face is facing backwards, as if you were going to plow in reverse. Have the plow blade angled so snow is moved off to one side. Drop the blade and drive forward. The blade tends to ride up a little and won't dig in to the crush and run. It will drag a little stone with it but my experience is that it doesn't drag too much. Actually the stone is relocated a little farther down the driveway. This plowing method leaves a base snow surface about 1" deep or so. There are quite a few crush and run driveways in my nieborhood I have plowed in this way. I have had no complaints yet and have been treated to quite a few beers.

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Jonboy

01-23-2005 13:11:19




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
Try setting the 3pt control stop just off the ground and try that. That way everytime you drop the blade it will be at the right height and not digging into your drive way.
Hope this helps



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Robert in W. Mi.

01-23-2005 13:08:54




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  
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Here's how i plow with my tractor...

Robert



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just

01-23-2005 12:34:56




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Davefr, 01-23-2005 12:17:00  

set your rear blade at an angle to spill off the right and to cut an inch or so off the ground. Run forward at a fair speed to turn the snow off the side. multiple passes may be needed so move the snow off to the side as far as posssible the first pass.



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

01-23-2005 13:36:05




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to just, 01-23-2005 12:34:56  
I have a Ford 860 with a loader. I had a spare 3 point rear blade and I cut off everthing down to the swivel plate. I the took a heavy piece of chanel iron long enough to weld brackets on that would pin up to the arms of the loader and welded it to the swivel plate. I then welded another piece of chanel iron that was high (little over a foot) enough to weld a 1 inch bolt on and another bolt was welded to the loader in a location that would accept an adjustable top link. I now push the blade instead of pull. Had to add feet to stop it from digging in but it sure does the job.

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ken macfarlane

01-24-2005 06:37:36




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 01-23-2005 13:36:05  
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We use a blower as the loader usually makes a mess but I prefer using the GMC Tracker with 6.5 foot Meyers plow. It makes such a clean job it is great!

I hope to mount a 7.5 footer on the loader some day as I think it would be exceptional at stacking!

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Brian in NY

01-24-2005 07:01:21




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to ken macfarlane, 01-24-2005 06:37:36  
Farmall H with 8 foot front plow. Slight angle to the right, works great. The cylinder is set up so that I can lift the bottom of the plow about 2 feet off the ground and can really "stack" the snow. You might want to consider a blade to replace the bucket....and then run the back blade backwards behind you to smooth.



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Hoosier JD

01-24-2005 15:49:22




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 Re: How do you plow snow with your tractor?? in reply to Brian in NY, 01-24-2005 07:01:21  
I have an 8 foot wide blade that I use to plow my driveway. I also plow all the neighbors driveways with some of them having crushed limestone or gravel... I hate to tear them up. So I scrounged up 2 pieces of 2" water pipe 8 foot wide, welded some 1-1/2" wide angle iron in between them and lowered the blade down into the angle iron. I then fastened this to my blade. The round pipe then rides on the ground...forwards or backwards, not hurting their driveway. Happy neighbors! Later, Mike

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