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Synthetic Oil in a Diesel?

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LK

01-31-2005 10:28:46




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I read with great interest the earlier post abut syn oil I have been a fan of mobil 1 since it first came out, and I use it in every 4 cycle engine I own- even lawnmowers.

...except my diesels. I have an Isuzu turbo diesel box truck, a Case 580 backhoe, and a newly acquired New Holland skid steer (kubota engine).

I have never seen anything written that indicates that you should NOT use syn in a diesel- I just have never read anything that says it is OK. The owners manuals for all these 3 machines predate syn oil.

It seems like a good idea to me, but I am new to diesels and don't want to make an expensive mistake. To play it safe, I have been using plain old Rotella oil, but in this cold weather I sure would rather have syn in there!

It seems to me the very best protection for ANY engine woudl be full synthetic oil, AND a bypass filter to keep it clean down to 1 micron. Heck, my isuzu box truck already has two oil filters from the factory- a regular full flow AND a bypass. This is how all engines should be made, IMHO.

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Ryan - WI

01-31-2005 19:25:34




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 Re: Synthetic Oil in a Diesel? in reply to LK, 01-31-2005 10:28:46  
My wife has a 1.9 L Turbo Diesel in her Beetle. The VW dealer higly recommends a fully synthetic oil and that is what she gets. I would go for it.



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Josh (Holt T-35)

01-31-2005 19:23:46




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 Re: Synthetic Oil in a Diesel? in reply to LK, 01-31-2005 10:28:46  
Synthetic 5w40 carrying the rating of CH-4 or CI-4 is recommended for my Volkswagen TDI.

Be sure whatever you use, it has a "C" rating for compression ignition engines.

I use Delo 400 synthetic. Any synthetic with a compression ignition rating is almost impossible to find retail here.

Josh



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txblu

01-31-2005 18:57:17




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 Re: Synthetic Oil in a Diesel? in reply to LK, 01-31-2005 10:28:46  
Rotella T, parafin based ,is mighty fine oil. But with it, or Mobil, or Exxon, I always add 20% Mobil 1 in all my engines except air cooled which get 100% syn. I have personal proof it is better than parafin oil alone. No brag just fact.

Mark



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Jon H

01-31-2005 12:01:54




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 Re: Synthetic Oil in a Diesel? in reply to LK, 01-31-2005 10:28:46  
I agree with all you say LK,including that all engines would do better with a dual filter system. There are several companies marketing spin on filters with a dual element built in so they contain both full flow and tight bypass filter in one case for engines only equipped with a full flow filter. I have not tried them,so I do not know how well they work. Mobil sells a full synthetic oil for diesel engines under the Delvac 1 name. Here is a link to the site. It makes for some interesting reading. They list some great fuel economy improvements and incredibly long oil change intervals,likley possible due to the bypass oil filter found on most OTR trucks.

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BJ

01-31-2005 11:52:47




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 Re: Synthetic Oil in a Diesel? in reply to LK, 01-31-2005 10:28:46  
I can't see what the problem would be the new Ford Powerstroke diesels are recommending synthetic oil I have a Dodge/cummins myself that I use the Rotella Synthetic 5-40 (comes in a blue jug) I also use the same oil in my GoldWing motorcycle and the price is hard to beat it is usually just under 13 dollars a gallon. I usually get it at Wal-mart or Advance or Autozone parts stores. Just make sure it is a BLUE jug if your wanting synthetic and it is also 5-40 verses 15-40 for the dino oil

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JDknut

01-31-2005 11:50:49




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 Re: Synthetic Oil in a Diesel? in reply to LK, 01-31-2005 10:28:46  
You can use synthetic that is specially rated for Diesel use such as Mobil Delvac One or Shell Rotella T Synthetic, or the like, rated for Diesels: CG CH, I am not sure what the latest is now. I wouldn't use straight Mobil One or the like as it is only rated for spark ignition engines. Diesels have special needs, thus needs oils rated specially for them.



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