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Wisconsin 4 cylinder

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Kevin (FL)

02-04-2005 18:36:40




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Does anyone know what about what a 4-cyl Wisconsin + PTO (with multi-groove pulley + sprocket) is worth? This one cranks over fine but I haven't checked the spark or fuel. Also, anyone ever use one of these to power a belt-driven generator? Thanks.




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Jon H

02-05-2005 12:08:44




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 Re: Wisconsin 4 cylinder in reply to Kevin (FL), 02-04-2005 18:36:40  
I used the larger flathead V4 to run an old Electric Machine 3 ph generator with a belt drive. It had no pto,just direct crankshaft drive.The governor was active enough to maintain fairly close to 60 cycle AC,It was nice to not have to deal with a liquid cooling system. The engine was one from a pair of Versatile 103 swathers we ran untill we wore them out. The engines outlasted the machines. They are fuel hogs,but ran forever with 50 hr oil changes,they usually needed little to no makeup oil between changes. One good feature atleast on the ag engines was a standard cylinder head temp switch that would kill the ignition if they overheated. Many times those old swathers would shut down when being worked in dirty conditions. I would find the cooling air screen totally clogged. Clean the screen,wait 15 min for the engine to cool and reset the overheat switch,then back to work. Many of these engines,especially the little ones on big swathers that overloaded them, were damaged when the owners would disconnect the overheat switches to prevent shutdown. Another thing that caused a great deal of trouble was storing them outside or in damp conditions. stuck valves were usually the result. Most of the broken heads and blown head gaskets were the result of not oiling the distributor advance and having it stick in the full advanced position. This over advanced ignition timing would cause terrible detonation at low to mid rpm with a heavy load,which caused a lot of split heads and blown head gaskets.This was a cronic problem with Wisconsin powered Bobcat skid loaders parked in damp cattle barns in winter.

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paul

02-04-2005 20:11:33




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 Re: Wisconsin 4 cylinder in reply to Kevin (FL), 02-04-2005 18:36:40  
Either side of $100 if running v4 flat head.

--->Paul



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jdemaris

02-04-2005 20:03:37




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 Re: Wisconsin 4 cylinder in reply to Kevin (FL), 02-04-2005 18:36:40  
I find them often - flathead V4s in the $50 price range if set-up, maybe $150 if running and with electric start and over-center clutch PTO drive. If it an overhead valve, especially the 61 horse model, considerably more. Just about every time I'm down at the scrap-metal yard, there's two or three on them on the pile - often complete and sometimes runable.



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cdmn

02-04-2005 19:51:42




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 Re: Wisconsin 4 cylinder in reply to Kevin (FL), 02-04-2005 18:36:40  
My brother the mechanic, says they were the best engines ever made for work in hot and dusty situations. On-the-farm price wouldn't be very much. At one time, they were common in combines, swathers and hay balers. If it's got starter, generator and distributor ignition, offer $100. (That's $5 in the old money)



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Bob

02-05-2005 08:29:17




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 Re: Wisconsin 4 cylinder in reply to cdmn, 02-04-2005 19:51:42  
Your brother the mechanic must have never had to keep one of the @%^& things running, or get it to re-start when warm! You are the first person I have EVER heard with anything GOOD to say about them!

We had a number of them over the years, and it was ALWAYS something... stuck valves, blown head gaskets, oil burning. We had 2 old IH 163 swathers, one Wisconsin powered, and the other powered by an IH watercooled power unit. The Wisconsin was rebuilt numerous times, the IH watercooled NEVER needed any repairs, and when we junked the swathers, we put the IH engine in an "A" that had a cracked block, and mowed with it for YEARS more.

After that, we had a 175 IH swather powered by a bigger VG4D engine. Same sorry piece of crap. After having it professionally rebuilt (by a Wisconsin distributor)($$$$$$), it ran ONE season before it started burning oil again. I replaced it with an industrial Chevy II 153 engine from an Owatonna swather, that already had seen a LOT of use. The Chevy had WAY MORE power and used less gas. I run that swather for YEARS with NO engine trouble, and still have it tucked away in the back of the quonset.

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