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old fashioned f

02-07-2005 08:02:39

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Howdy folks,

I've now got a set of rims for the M coming from Wisconsin for a considerable amount less than what I was going to pay so I thank you for the help. It's getting to look like spring here in Southern OH so I'm startin to think about spring fertilizing of my hay fields. What kind of fertilizer amounts work well for you all on hay fields? I have alfalfa in one field and orchard grass in another. Lookin for some opinions. Thanks a lot. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

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02-08-2005 11:31:49

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Re: Thank you and a question on fertilizer in reply to old fashioned farmer, 02-07-2005 08:02:39

The best thing to do is to take soil samples. take them in patterns in your field. If you do this with a shovel, dig a hole with a spade, then cut a slice of soil top to bottom of hole and put in a test bag. do this in several places in the field so you will know the variance of your soil. This will tell you the acidity of the soil, then put limstone on to bring it where it belongs. also check potash levels and apply to bring to levels.

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Migraine

02-07-2005 18:16:59

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Re: Thank you and a question on fertilizer in reply to old fashioned farmer, 02-07-2005 08:02:39

I had the pleasure of being a soil and fertilizer analyst in the midwest U.S. for about 4 years and had 300 farms on a soil nutrient and fertilizer and chemical program. Most criticaL is the soil acidity level being maintained at between 6.7 to 7.0 for most legumes. We usually spread no more than 2 ton of lime to the acre at any one application'and was based on a good through soil sample taken with a good soil probe. Then after the first and second crop was taken off we put on 100 lbs of 0-0-61 potash to the acre and we had hay tonnage that was near the top of the chart for both tonnage and protein. Potassium is mostly what legumes and corn cut for silage need to replace whats taken out. Hope this helps. Migraine

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greenbeanman in Kansas

02-07-2005 20:01:22

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Re: Thank you and a question on fertilizer in reply to Migraine, 02-07-2005 18:16:59

Migraine, a question for you if you don't mind.
On another forum someone asked if those electronic handheld fertilizer indicators worked at all?

No one on the forum had ever used one or been around where they were being used.

I continually resist buying one as I figure that they don't work. Am I wrong? You may not know as I expect you do the soil sampling correctly via a lab.

Thanks.

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Migraine

02-07-2005 20:36:04

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Re: Thank you and a question on fertilizer in reply to greenbeanman in Kansas, 02-07-2005 20:01:22

They were just coming on the market when I left the scene but I read and reviewed that the readings were easily influenced by moisture content and organic matter in the soil. I trusted the lab results because if we followed their recommendations pretty close, the clients got very good results. We did not see much improvements with the addition of the micronutrients (zinc, boron etc.) But concentrated on replacing the soil with what we were taking out on a given crop. Migraine

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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

02-07-2005 08:15:52

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Re: Thank you and a question on fertilizer in reply to old fashioned farmer, 02-07-2005 08:02:39

Not an expert by any means so check with your university extension agent. I have been told that lime is a good fert for grass and alfalfa and the need or amount is determined by your acid-base soil conditions. A good representative sample is by taking soil samples at the corners of the field as well as several along the middle line depending on the size of your field. Mix them together in a pail and submit the sample to your ag agent for testing. I think you want to take the samples from somewhere around 1 foot where the root systems are. Again check with your local ag agent for more detailed information. Good luck.

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