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Terry Edwards

02-07-2005 16:45:29




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Looking for some information on a German-made tractor...Duetz. Specifically, a Duetz 4005D. "Ballpark" value? Specs, such as horsepower, etc? Reliability? Maintenance/upkeep costs? Finding parts? Websites?




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thejdman01

02-08-2005 10:47:08




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 Re: Duetz Tractors in reply to Terry Edwards, 02-07-2005 16:45:29  
my experiences with deutz are not good. all depends on what your after and your needs. alot had problems if running feed mill or something where its under constant hard pull without moving and lack of airflow. also didnt hold up well discing etc where corn stalks would get over the fins. also oil leaks at all and dirt would cake and bake the motor. as a light tractor or yard tractor maybe ok but the air cooling just has no way of accuratly keeping the motor at any temperature therefore efficiency and overheating on a hot day or when pulling it hard w/o any breaks or standstill operation is really hard on them

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Norberg

02-23-2005 08:43:05




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 Re: Duetz Tractors in reply to thejdman01, 02-08-2005 10:47:08  
Just how much experience have you actually had with a properly maintained Deutz? Everyone is quick to criticize things they don't understand but slow too admit it. If Deutz tractors are so lousy for use as a stationary powerplant for say, feed-mill operation, why are they the preferred engine of choice for: compressors, mobile lighting, power-lifts, irrigation, generators, etc..? Any quick answers? Why would it be that they are also the only engine certified to run in undergroud mining? Why is Deutz the leading manufacturer of fuel-efficient power-plants in the world? In the mid-70's Deutz put out a gutsy promotion ad that stated, "If you can find a tractor that can do the same amount of work on less fuel, buy it!" When was the last time you saw John Deere, International, Case, or any other brand make such a claim and back it up? Any quick answers? Check the oil, fan belt, and clean the cooling fans regularly like you would any other brand and run it as long as you like. Oh yeah, be sure to wave to your neighbors when you see them heading for the fuel barrel at the end of the day.

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John (C-IL)

02-08-2005 06:02:50




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 Re: Duetz Tractors in reply to Terry Edwards, 02-07-2005 16:45:29  
I have a 4006D that is great. Pound for pound it is the hardest working tractor on the farm. It will pull a 4 row planter and I use it a lot on the bush hog rotary mower. Parts are expensive, but not that hard to find. My AGCO dealer gets them for me. The crank case holds 5 gallons of oil and the filters are available from AGCO. Changing the fuel filters is a b..ch because they are upside down. I'd buy another one real quick if it was in as good of condition as mine.

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Steve-MN

02-07-2005 17:27:53




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 Re: Duetz Tractors in reply to Terry Edwards, 02-07-2005 16:45:29  
Terry,
My dad & brothers have 2 40-06's from about 20-25 yrs ago. Still running. 40hp. Make great chore tractors. Have a bucket on the front of each. Pretty light tractors. Engines are very good. The air cooled engines were in Rommels tanks in North Africa. Haven't really had much trouble with them. Starts pretty easy. Be careful with ether when starting cause the head bolts stretch easier than American tractors. Not sure about parts but they are in cahoots with Allis. Duetz/Allis. They put their first Dealership 1 mile from our farm(near Moline Ill) in the 70's to take on JD/IH/Case & lost.
We also had an 80-06 & 100-06. (80 & 100 HP). The clutches kept going out in the heavy Iowa soil & you have to split the tractor to fix. Dad switched back to Case/JD after that. The 80-06 is a great chore tractor now. Sold the 100-06.
Hope this helps some,
Steve

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edchainsaw

02-07-2005 19:53:16




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 Re: Duetz Tractors in reply to Steve-MN, 02-07-2005 17:27:53  
several were sold around here..

parts are expensive--- and the Deutz-allis deal is no longer. so Parts are hard to find

of the ones closest to me.. all had bad clutchs and ones rear end went bad so many times its now a parts pile (a 100-06)



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RUSTY WARD

04-22-2005 09:15:36




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 Re: Duetz Tractors in reply to edchainsaw, 02-07-2005 19:53:16  
cALL RUSTY AT WARD BROS WE CAN HELP YOU WITH ALL YOU DEUTZ NEEDS. WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 30 YEARS REPAIRING AND SELLING DEUTZS. 1800 572 0297



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NEsota

02-08-2005 18:54:16




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 Re: Duetz Tractors in reply to edchainsaw, 02-07-2005 19:53:16  

A neighbor let me use his 125 H.P. Duetz. Size is stated because I do not remember the model. After four or five hours use the clutch would not release. The problem was that the throw out bearing went and wore down the clutch fork. It was a $1000 repair including pickup and delivery. Neighbor did not blame me because it was obvious what had happened but I was apprehensive until I found out the reason for the failure. Later at a farm sale I saw a larger Duetz sell. There was a decal by a zerk near the clutch housing indicating hi-temp grease was required for that the throw out bearing. (I have used Mobile synthetic grease with a temp range of -40F to +450, in other applications.) Neighbor did not know anything about the hi-temp requirement. Can you Duetz people shead any light on a hi-temp grease requirment for the clutch bearing.

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