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B or BN John Deere

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DrewinMI

03-13-2005 16:04:38




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Just looked at an old single front wheel B John Deere for sale. The serial number (#227208) is legible, but not the letters in front of it. Should there be a stamping of B or BN in front of the numbers?

It also appears to have what they call "long rear axles". What is the standard length and what is considered long?

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Drew




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JYD

03-14-2005 05:10:28




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to DrewinMI, 03-13-2005 16:04:38  
Drew,

Beginning with the production of the late-styled Model B (1947), the designation BNH and BWH was dropped. That designation was replaced by the BN and BW. All BN's and BW's (1947-1952) had the two-piece front pedestal and longer axles with the corresponding longer axles. Most of the BN's and BW's had 42" rear rubber, but the option of 38" rears was available. The key to determining whether or not your tractor is a BN is the rear axle housing. The rear axle on a BN (and BW) will have a B2406R casting number. The regular row-
crop Model B had the B2405R rear axle housing. The BN and BW are referred to as high-clearnace tractors, but they have no "H" designation. Also, the single front on a BN would be 16" unit (there was a 10" single front unit availble for the regular Model B.

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CLW

03-14-2005 00:01:30




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to DrewinMI, 03-13-2005 16:04:38  
DrewinMI, this is straight out of Two- Cylinder,1998, May-June issue. Page 2.

The BN had rear wheel tread adjustments from 56 to 104 inches. The regular B has 56 to 88-inch adjustments. ALMOST all BN tractors had 42 inch rear tires, but NOT ALL as the 38-inch rear wheel equipment was available on the BN right from the factory. The two-piece pedestel only became available on the regular B in 1950. The tractor you are looking at is a 1948 model and the two-piece pedestel was used as standard equipment ONLY on the BN and BW before 1950. If the tractor has a split pedestel and long axels it should be a BN. There were no BNH or BWH late styled B tractors (47-52) made.
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Leroy

03-13-2005 18:28:22




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to DrewinMI, 03-13-2005 16:04:38  
the split pedistal means the front end is interchangeable from wide, tricyle, rollamatic or single without taking the whole front end off and that would be newer than your serial no and would not have the extra long axles. Your tractor should have a pressed steel frame and that with tyhe single front wheel is suposed to have 42" rear wheels, the 36" would have been subsituted for the corect as someone could not get the 42" tire and the other models trycicle had 38" wheels, that 36" would be from an unstyled tractor

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David B

03-13-2005 16:31:15




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to DrewinMI, 03-13-2005 16:04:38  
First, was it a split pedistal? Does it have 42" rubber on it?
I don"t know the axle length, but they are long devils, obviously longer than a regular B.
I don"t think "BN" was on the tag, you use the number someplace and that tells you if it is a BN. Hope this helped.



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edchainsaw

03-13-2005 19:04:06




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to David B, 03-13-2005 16:31:15  
the JD B does not carry any distinction on the serial tags...

and BN's do not have 42in wheels..
BNH's had 42in wheels.
BN's do not nessarrily have long axles either. some do

a tractor with a split pedistal can be anything but to my knowledge you will not find any of the tractors prior to 48 or 9 with that if that early



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edchainsaw

03-13-2005 19:03:50




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to David B, 03-13-2005 16:31:15  
the JD B does not carry any distinction on the serial tags...

and BN's do not have 42in wheels..
BNH's had 42in wheels.
BN's do not nessarrily have long axles either. some do

a tractor with a split pedistal can be anything but to my knowledge you will not find any of the tractors prior to 48 or 9 with that if that early



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edchainsaw

03-13-2005 19:04:00




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to David B, 03-13-2005 16:31:15  
the JD B does not carry any distinction on the serial tags...

and BN's do not have 42in wheels..
BNH's had 42in wheels.
BN's do not nessarrily have long axles either. some do

a tractor with a split pedistal can be anything but to my knowledge you will not find any of the tractors prior to 48 or 9 with that if that early



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edchainsaw

03-13-2005 19:05:14




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 error on input in reply to edchainsaw, 03-13-2005 19:04:00  
sorry for the tripple post.. machine stuck in loop



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DrewinMI

03-13-2005 18:17:29




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to David B, 03-13-2005 16:31:15  
Can you tell me more about a split pedestal? Haven't heard of that before.

It has 36" rubber on solid cast center wheels on the rear and a solid cast wheel on the front. It appears to be running uphill.

Thanks!
Drew



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CLW

03-14-2005 00:11:04




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 Re: B or BN John Deere in reply to DrewinMI, 03-13-2005 18:17:29  
At sometime in its life someone changed the rear rubber from 38 or 42 to the 36. Nothing I can find says it would have come from the factory with 36' tires. That is why it is running up hill so much.
CLW



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