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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 15:41:00

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Owner says he was pulling a tile plow and split 'er right in two. Guess even the big rigs have a bad day now and then. :>(

Allan

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buickanddeere

03-31-2005 13:19:55

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

It would be interesting to know what really happened. The people involved are not going to admit to horsing around. I wonder if they were in dry hard clay and ploughing the tile deep. A 2nd tractor may have been hooked onto the handy front weight rack. Instead of crawling under to connect the drawbar. All they had to do was start turning to follow the terrain and with the side pull from the front ..... ..... ..snap. Or a nasty casting flaw. I doubt any scraplead got into the iron used to cast the piece but you never know. Deere is pretty fussy on metalurgy checks.

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HTR

03-31-2005 18:49:47

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to buickanddeere, 03-31-2005 13:19:55

Read what the owner said under view other comments.

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d-c-741

03-31-2005 09:16:32

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Hey May Be the Part Was Made In CHINA !!Every thing else we buy any more is !

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billyiron

03-31-2005 07:09:53

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

theres a big feedyard by us they did this to 2 8100 JDs in one day,,,the one was on a haymover and stuck, so thy took another one to push him nose to nose,,that didnt work so the pusher backed up an took a good run at the stuck one guess what!!!!! !!!!! !,,then theres the time they played chicken with a 4840 and 7140,,,lots of entertainment up there

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Gulliver.

03-31-2005 06:26:52

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Hard to believe this didn't start a urine trajectory contest with the guy from Louisville. Figured he'd come in ranting and raving in big capital letters, foaming at the mouth about someone running the picture through Photoshop.

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Allan in NE

03-31-2005 07:31:08

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Gulliver., 03-31-2005 06:26:52

Gul,

"Urine trajectory contest" I like that! :>)

I tried to gently ease him into the discussion, but he won't take the darned bait. :>)

Allan

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Observer

03-30-2005 20:58:54

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

I heard a 4020 Gasser broke in half like that pulling 3x16's. Turn it into a boat anchor!

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jhill

03-30-2005 20:46:14

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

I wonder if something could have failed in the tranny that put a real stress on the case causing it to break. Maybe a shaft or gear broke and bound it up and all that power just split the case.

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David B

03-30-2005 18:27:16

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Wow. Scary thing, we have a tractor identical to it. Must be that green paint, huh?

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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 18:39:05

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to David B, 03-30-2005 18:27:16

Hi Dave,

Nope, I won't play that game. All tractors break. :>)

I think something really weird took place here. Too darned bad; 'twas and nice tractor.

Allan

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David B

03-30-2005 19:00:25

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 18:39:05

I know, but I couldn"t resist. We"ve kept really good care of ours, and it had to be something odd. Ours is a real horse- lots of power.

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Leland

03-30-2005 17:49:03

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

I don't see how this happens bacause of the unnatural things I have done with tractors and never hurt one.

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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 17:51:47

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Leland, 03-30-2005 17:49:03

Aw heck,

Possibly just a weak casting; who knows for sure?

Allan

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Leland

03-30-2005 18:03:20

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 17:51:47

That is kinda of what I was kinda thinking but do you think mother deere would admit this?

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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 18:23:39

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Leland, 03-30-2005 18:03:20

Hi Leland,

I had one get away from me yesterday and like a 3-year-old dummy, I pushed the clutch and dropped her back down three feet on her nose, kabang!

Now, I'm setting here thinking, "There, but for the grace of God, go I".

I just gotta get out of these darned hills or get some front end weights mounted up. :>(

Would kinda like to know all of that story on the John; those are a pretty tough ol' rig.

Allan

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Leland

03-31-2005 05:27:37

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 18:23:39

Out east here we don't have to worry about hills,just going to deep here with a light front end. And those suit case weights for those old red beasts are getting hard to find anymore, But I also am curious and the demize of old john also .

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J. Schwiebert

03-30-2005 17:21:49

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Must be why they pull tile plows here with D-8 Cats and quadra-tracks and others of that magnatude.

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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 17:29:29

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-30-2005 17:21:49

My books say DO NOT ADD FRONT END WEIGHT to a front axle drive tractor.

'Spose that had anything to do with it?

Dunno,

Allan

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J. Schwiebert

03-30-2005 18:19:40

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 17:29:29

What book is that? You need to have weight on the font to make the front wheel drive more effective.

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Allan in NE

03-30-2005 18:33:12

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-30-2005 18:19:40

Hi J,

It is in the operator's manual of my tractor. Granted, it was published back in '76 before these things were so popular.

Allan

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J. Schwiebert

03-30-2005 19:20:04

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 18:33:12

Do you have one of them? I have some questions about that axle both the Elwood and Dana part

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trac4inc

03-13-2006 15:34:00

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to J. Schwiebert, 03-30-2005 19:20:04

Trac 4 supplies the parts for the Elwood/Spicer front ends. They were factory supplied to IH for a lot of years, til JI Case bought IH out. Elwood Manufacturing went out of business in 1989. We picked up the parts.

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Ray

03-30-2005 17:45:22

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 17:29:29

Most come from the factory with front weights,you
don't see many without.

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Jonboy

03-30-2005 16:56:24

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Ya know I don't quite understand how these tractors break while being used like they are supposed to be used. We got a local field days here that has a pull, locals bring their toys and battle it out in the 30,000lb free for all with seriously modified engines and they don't break them in half, and thats with way more weights than the tractor is ever supposed to have and duels, sometimes both front and rear. That was a very nice looking tractor, prolly worth around $55,000, I should think you could fix it for that.

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Sloroll

03-30-2005 16:47:36

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

He could replace it....

smells like a scam

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Galen

03-30-2005 18:43:22

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Sloroll, 03-30-2005 16:47:36

Yup - scam - ebay has since killed it!

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JB Weld

03-30-2005 16:46:29

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Hm, I'm thinking one tube of JB Weld and a legitimate cashiers check from one of those foreign scam dudes. That is about what they deserve.

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Dug

03-30-2005 16:37:45

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

I don't buy it! Must be trick photography because Johns don't break. Now, if that was an IH...

Dug

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the tractor vet

03-30-2005 16:48:44

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Dug, 03-30-2005 16:37:45

I don't know what world you come from But tthat's not the firt Deere that i have seen in KIT FORM. Thats like sayen that a small block Chebbey won't blow they are a hand gernade with the pin ready to fall out as soon as ya start one. BTW I don't like cheves either.

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dr.sportster

03-31-2005 07:17:31

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to the tractor vet, 03-30-2005 16:48:44

Ever been to a race track? youll need a Chevrolet if you want to do anything.

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Dug

03-30-2005 16:57:51

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to the tractor vet, 03-30-2005 16:48:44

Small block Chebbeys won't blow! Did someone tell you different?

Dug

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the tractor vet

03-30-2005 17:05:24

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Dug, 03-30-2005 16:57:51

Oh wait they have run first.

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dr.sportster

03-31-2005 07:20:58

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to the tractor vet, 03-30-2005 17:05:24

The fords follow from the rear.

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Harley

03-30-2005 16:36:42

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Looks like he needs a right good M to pull that boat anchor out of the field. :o) Harley

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the tractor vet

03-30-2005 16:02:16

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Allan in NE, 03-30-2005 15:41:00

Must have been to much weigh on the ft to pull her apart or he stood it in the air and dropped it hard. Looks like a parts tractor now as the labor and the housings would be more then it is worthe along with all the bent and broken stuff inside.

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

03-30-2005 16:23:32

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to the tractor vet, 03-30-2005 16:02:16

That reminds me of a mess I saw back in the '80's.
My neighbour had about 12 tons of manure on a spreader behind his new 85 hp International as he made his way down the highway to a field across the road. Somehow he managed to do a left turn into the path of a Volvo 240 as the lady tried to pass him.

The impact on the back of the left front wheel snapped the block of the International, which then allowed the engine and front wheels to drop to the pavement. The cab, Bob, and the spreader kept going at the tractor's road speed until the laws of physics had taken their course.

Another neighbour did the estimate for damage to the Volvo. Grille, bumper, no radiator. $900. The tractor? $20,000.

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brian 1

03-31-2005 08:55:57

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 03-30-2005 16:23:32

Would expect that the manure total increased by a couple pounds shortly after impact!

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JGH

03-31-2005 10:19:46

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Re: Ouch!!! in reply to brian 1, 03-31-2005 08:55:57

That tractor is (fwa)front wheel assist,not an all wheel drive.

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