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hauling costs??

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charlie trowbri

04-08-2005 08:47:19




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what is a ball park price for hauling a tractor -- average per mile --- again this is only a "ball park" figure?




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VADAVE

04-08-2005 16:39:01




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to charlie trowbridge, 04-08-2005 08:47:19  
I had oner hauled last fall for $1.00 loaded mile. I had to wait for him to get a truck load so it was a short wait but worth it. He only hauls in the of season.



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slow ride

04-08-2005 14:20:07




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to charlie trowbridge, 04-08-2005 08:47:19  
I can usually get them hauled from the West coast to the midwest for about 60 to 70 cents a loaded mile. I have a trucker that does it as a backhaul for me so his load is mainly paid by the other freight. I pay cash and he likes the added income



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the tractor vet

04-08-2005 09:02:24




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to charlie trowbridge, 04-08-2005 08:47:19  
I would have to say that in today's market from a 1.75 a mile and up depending on size and weight and wideth as any thing over 8 foot 6 inches is concidered oversize and will require a pemit for each state hauled in . It is not like the old days when the bears and DOT took a blind eye to farm equipment being hauled now it is a money game.



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johndeeregene

04-08-2005 19:56:15




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-08-2005 09:02:24  
a guy was interested in buying a tractor of mine an then ask if i would haul right at 700 miles. i told him i would do it for 900. thats 1.35 a mile an he thought i was nuts. he wanted me to do it for 300. of course there also he offered me 800 for a running 60lp that i was askin 1300 for. i just laughed an told him it was nolonger for sale, to him that is. johndeeregene



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Ray

04-08-2005 12:07:20




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-08-2005 09:02:24  
There not hauling one tractor for $1.75 per mile,
they charge that for everyone on the trailer,load
5 or 6 and you have a pretty good back haul,
sometimes all cash that they don"t report or the
company doesn"t know about the haul and the driver keeps it all.



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dej(JED)

04-08-2005 09:18:38




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-08-2005 09:02:24  
Let's see now $1.75 per mile equals $12.25 per gallon of fuel at 7 mpg. The gallon of fuel costs $2.25. That leaves $10.00 per gallon as profit. Yes of course you have insurance , say
$3.33 per day. If you drive 8 hrs at 60 miles per hr. that equals about 68.57 gallons of fuel burnt at 7 mpg or $.05 cents cost for insurance per gallon. This now gives you a net profit of $9.95 cents per gallon. $1.75 per mile is excessive.

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Leland

04-08-2005 20:32:50




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to dej(JED), 04-08-2005 09:18:38  
Jed out of that 1.75 per mile you also pay insurance fuel driver wages road use tax fuel tax and you have truck and trailer payments and anout 2 dozen other operating costs. So how long could you keep one on the road for what you think it's worth you would not last long In Ill alone the base plate for a tractor is $3300.00 per year I belive after the GOV raised rates.



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Nebraska Cowman

04-08-2005 12:32:19




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to dej(JED), 04-08-2005 09:18:38  
Did you ever consider that somebody has got to buy the truck and keep it maintained? And Oh, silly me, I think the driver should be paid too.



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Sloroll

04-08-2005 12:38:35




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 04-08-2005 12:32:19  
WHAT?!?! People in the transportation business get paid??!?!?!? MAN! I gotta go talk to my accountant!



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the tractor vet

04-08-2005 11:17:45




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to dej(JED), 04-08-2005 09:18:38  
And BTW you take a new one tonand pull a trailer with everyday haulen loads that max it out and see just how long it will last. been there and done that and it is a darn good thing that i am a mechanic because you could not afford to have a dealer be fixen it all the time. Just like plowen snow , people thought that i was way to high but when ya figure in the upkeep pre year you just bearly made out for 19 years of snow plowening i watched guys come and go after the first year and here comes someone else that can do it cheeper and by the time snow season was over you were doing some of theirs because they broke down and could not afford to replace that ft. rearend that they blew out or that transmission that they burt up . And the big thing that people don't realize is that it takes Iron to haul iron and vary few spec . there trucks out to do the job that they intend to do with it if you are going to pull a freight box then any old truck will get the job done but if you are going to pull a lowboy and haul big ugly heavy stuff then spec. have to change same for a 3/4 ton or 1 ton and ya just don't buy them off the lots and as far as fuel milage it is a whole differant ball game as to what you will get with the differant loads . Haulen a tractor with no cab will do better then one with and just watch what happens when you load a combine and it only weighs 20000 lbs you will think you have 100000 on the deck and add a littel breeze on top and you will be hoppen for a nother 150 hp.and be thankful if ya get 4 mpg. I bought a nice littel Gleaner E 3 with a two row corn head and a nice 10 grain head and it fit so nice on my 28 foot gooseneck behind my 88 ford 1 ton and it only weight around 8000 lbs that truck always got around 10-12 mpg loaded boughtit out near Plymouth Ind. and was bringing it back to eastern ohio that nite the wind was out of the east and from Plymouth to Ft. Wayne it took 29 gal of gas and bearly made Beaver Dam and it was a good thing that the one gas statino was open in Crestline then again at Dalton and toped the tank off in Canton and two weeks before i brought a 1066 with duals and weights along with a 806 with duals and weights from Forest Ill. and never used half as much fuel and was way overloaded .

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Wild Bill

04-08-2005 10:52:40




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to dej(JED), 04-08-2005 09:18:38  
Jed, you also have to factor in the cost of wear and tear on you truck and trailer, not to mention that haulers are not just in it to break even. They do have responsibilities, i.e. families to feed and bills to pay. Would you work all day long just for the cost of gas money to and from your job????



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Allan in NE

04-08-2005 09:36:50




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to dej(JED), 04-08-2005 09:18:38  
Jed,

I agree it's awfully high, but you're forgetting the cost of that $200K tractor trailer rig, which I think Doc is talking about.

Oftentimes, if you can catch 'em on a backhaul, they'll give you a break on hauling costs, 'cause they don't wanna run empty.

Allan



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Dave H (MI)

04-08-2005 10:08:50




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to Allan in NE, 04-08-2005 09:36:50  
Yes, he is...but that $200K rig is not paid for by hauling tractors part-time. What you are forgetting is the (lost) cost of hauling an empty rig back home after the main load is delivered. I usually get a deal from the trucker for filling that empty space. Always try to get a trucker who is needing to fill out a trailer and you will get a better deal. Something closer to $1 per loaded mile seems to be the average quote around here for a longer haul. Check around.

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the tractor vet

04-08-2005 10:52:58




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to Dave H (MI), 04-08-2005 10:08:50  
I don't care if it is a one ton and a goose neck . Today a one one costs as much as i paid for a 1977 Eagel and with all the cost that ges along with owening a truck . If you think that you can haul for less then go for it . Back in 1977 it took a 1.13 per mile to break even figuren out all the per mile cost of operation and the guys that thought that they could run for less are now driving for the big guys and putting up with there B/S now today a good not even an fancy tractor is going to cost you over 120000 bucks along with that goes that insurance payment of over 1200 a month for lib. and cargo and them tires are over 350 each plus the repairs and maintance and it does not take just 5 Qts. of oil your talken 11 gal. and everytime you go out for parts it's not a 10 dollar or100 bucks it's a grand . The freight that i was haulen was payen over 2.50 a mile and up as high as 8 bucks a mile . So go ahead and buy your self a new one ton diesel and anew 20000 lbs goose neck and get you CDL and insurance and like i said the pemits ot haul a tractor the the axels stick out past the rubrail and find out that that DOT officer does not like the way you chained that load and you don't have the IFTA sticker and no fire extingusher and your chains don't meet std. and see what it all about when he sticks that RED stivcker on your windsheild and has it impounded.

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Bobl58

04-08-2005 11:30:41




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-08-2005 10:52:58  
Well said, tractor vet. Don't forget about buying a tire that you just blew at truckstop prices, or the new alternator at some mechanic shop that knows you have to pay or else. Yep, it's a great life on the road. I think I should get back in it. Heck, you should be able to retire in a couple of years.



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the tractor vet

04-08-2005 16:36:03




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to Bobl58, 04-08-2005 11:30:41  
Owening a large car is like having two high priced wifes they alway need and want something and just when you THINK that you have some money in the bank the clutch goes out or that ft. rear end eats a power divider or the bearing go out of the back rear and eats the ring and pinion or you runover something and blow three of them new drives that you just put on last week or the engine dropes a pistion and you just ran out of warranty and it took the crank and block , Oh yea i want to run wright out and by a big truck and go haul tractors for 60 or 70 cents a mile . When i would go to sales around here guys would come up and ask me to haul there tractors or equipment for 20 to 50 bucks and i would just laugh at them . I was at a Kiko auction and i know the Kiko boys well use to fix there tractors and do there combineing for them and some guy asked Rusty if he knew of somebody that could haul this TW 25 Ford with duals from the sale and this sale was way down below Maryettia Ohio way back in the sticks with some real hard pullen up them humps and bumps and Rusty said that i was there with truck and trailer and that i was fair on price this guy wanted that TW25 hauled west of Madiana O . And he found me and when he asked i said yes that i could haul it and it was a 1.50 per loaded mile he went to Rusty compainen that i was rippen him off and Rusty came over and asked me what i had said and when i told him like i told that BOOZO Rusty did not think that i was out line atall . Then the Boozo come back over and offers me a whoppen 75 bucks and tells me that it is on my way home i live buy the state line on the east side and he also tells me that it is better to haul his tractor for that then going home empty then he made a comment that he could drive it for less , Now i am not sure but he may have had a vary long ride home in that tractor because ya can't drive a tractor on Interstates and there was no direct route out of there on the back roads. The ride home was enjoyable.

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Harley

04-08-2005 17:26:55




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-08-2005 16:36:03  
Hey Doc, You hit every nail right smack on the head. I was a large car shepherd for about 30 years, and I think the only quicker way to go broke is to farm. I finally came to the conclusion that if it has t&ts of wheels, sooner or later it is gonna cause you grief. Harley



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Allan in NE

04-08-2005 18:07:00




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 Re: hauling costs?? in reply to Harley, 04-08-2005 17:26:55  
ROFLMAO!!!!!

Harley, ya need to start a new thread on this subject. I'll vote in your direction, that's for sure. :>)

Allan



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