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OT... Mach 1 Mustang

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TractorMike

04-15-2005 18:57:29




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Hi all. I just got back from looking at a 1972 ford Mach 1 mustang and was wondering what you all would do?? The car needs restored and would be a project. So here's what it needs from what I can see. It needs 4 new tires, new rear quarter panels, the trunk needs a floor I think because you can see the gas tank. The right front inner quarter panel where the battery tray is supposed to be needs replaced, Needs a battery tray, The front radiator frame thingy that run's across the car needs replaced, The passenger side door post on the latch side has a small rust through hole and some other bad rust spots, The bottom passenger door is rusted through, Needs at least the drivers side floor pan, probably all of them need replaced. Needs new upholstery. The bottom of the hood has rusted through all along the front. Half of the engine is in the trunk( carb,dist, valve covers, ect.) The engine I'm pretty sure is stuck. The drivers side door needs a handle. The car has good glass, good chrome trim pieces, Good trunk lid, Frame from what I can see is good, and front outer quarter panel's are good, Top of the car is good. The wheels used to be nice but will need to be refinished or something. All the guages and dash are there. Oh, and the car is said to be number's matching, I don't know how to check the numbers so don't know if this is true or not. And the car has a title. That's about all I can think of right now. So what do y'all think, Worth $800???? Let me know what y'all think, Sorry for the long post, TractorMike

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Uncle

04-17-2005 04:06:47




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
I bought a 67 hardtop V-8 Mustang project out of Arizona 11 years ago, it's in the shop, I used to work on now and then, later only one day a year( my birthday) , now I haven't worked on it at all for years, but I'd be lost without it, my dream is top take my wife on evening runs to Dairy Queen on summer nights and act cool. It's not the investment, although it's getting older all the time and that's good for an old car...my 10 year old son that went with me to buy it has now graduated from college, I could sell it and have more room to pile junk up in the shop, but it's a dream to finish it, my only problem is putting other priorities before it. If a '71 is your dream...then you are on the right track...People don't understand that an old Mustang is not only a car, it was a time in a kids' life when the music on the radio was good stuff, and candy cost a nickel, a haircut was a haircut, and tatoos were for militarly guys and earings were for girls.Tractors were for working, drugs were for sick people and hippies were for pointing at. 4-wheel drives were for Jeeps,Crooked elected officilas were for locking up....The Ford Mustang came at a time that was more pure, however times have changed, and owning one, we can pretend that we are young at heart. Maybe it's a time machine?

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John M

04-16-2005 16:37:29




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
GO FOR IT!Dont let anyone knock down what you want!So it wont be wroth the money youll have in it,parts will/may be hard to find,but is that not what we do with these tractors?



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Tom Dooley

04-16-2005 15:12:47




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
The real question is "what weight class are you going to pull her in when you get her restored?"



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Way Up Here

04-16-2005 07:04:31




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
All of us want to eventually be able to stand back and say "I restored this from the ground up", but realistically, it just isn't worth it financially. Once it's done, you'll probably be able to sell it for somewhere around half of what you sunk into it. Here's a better plan, save your money for the next five years and then go buy one from someone else who's in the poorhouse. You'll get a good car and have money in the bank. If you want something cheap to tinker with and get your hands dirty, keep working on those old tractors. Cars get expensive very fast.

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Greywolf

04-16-2005 10:42:11




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to Way Up Here, 04-16-2005 07:04:31  
And after all that work and satisfaction why in the world would he ever think of selling it????? Resale value don't mean diddly squat unless you're trying to impress the banker with the bottom line.

Cars do get expensive (lets see comparable today is what about 30,000+ in the lot, 5 minutes later about 23,000 or so??), but after all the work he's still got something to use if need be for everyday life. And have some fun in the meantime.

Spending it on an old tractor that will sit in the shed to keep the rain drops off of, maybe come out for a parade or 2, is a bigger drain on the check book than a restored useable car.

Me thinks you've been holed up in the tractor shop a bit too long. Get out a bit, does the mind wonders to think outside of the box once in a while.

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Way Up Here

04-17-2005 06:34:11




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to Greywolf, 04-16-2005 10:42:11  
I guess I have to admit I just can't follow your response to my post. You have a slight tendency to jump around a bit, I guess that's what happens when a guy thinks "outside" the box (one of today's trendy watercooler expressions).

My point was (and still is) that vehicle restorations (and I mean a real restoration, not just polishing up an old car) are a losing proposition financially. If you or the other fellow have a ton of money and that doesn't mean anything, that's great. I've seen a lot of guys get into that old car restoration stuff and everything else (including family needs) get shortchanged. Not much sense in arguing here about something that is just plain fact but I thought I'd pass my comments on, the fellow involved can do as he wishes. Meanwhile, I haven't seen too many tractor restorations get into the car-resto price range.

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Farmer/Paul in Ont

04-16-2005 05:39:04




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
i have a 73 Mach 1 that I have owned since 1980. If you can buy the car cheap enough, use it for a donor car . A car with less body work is the ticket. It should not be that hard to find one in decent shape.



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MSM

04-16-2005 04:38:00




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
I think you will end up buried in that car. Time you get it all the way apart and find the frame,torgue boxes,firewall etc all have rust.Probably find the bottom of the shock towers are rusted out also. A nice 69 Mach 1 351 4 speed sold for $12,000 at last weeks Barret Jackson sale in Fla. Unless you are an experienced welder/fabricator and body man,a car in the condition you described will cost in excess of $15,000 to be repaired properly and put in primer at a restoration shop.A good paint job and detailing,stripes and trim will add $4-5000 on top of that.All the rust areas you describe add to the structural integrity of the car and can't just be pop riveted or brazed in place.Most of the parts needed are available,including a 1 piece floor pan, wheel tubs,frame rails and torque boxes,but time you drill out several hundred spot welds,fit everything,make up miscellaneous patches you will have 2-300 hours labor in it at around$50/hr at a shop,plus materials and parts.

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RustyFarmall

04-15-2005 20:42:49




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
Sounds like the perfect leaverright. Leave her right where you found her. It wouldn"t even make a good donor car.



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

04-15-2005 20:42:28




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
try this site for info.



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undecided in TX

04-15-2005 20:25:12




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
www.dallasmustang.com
1-800-mustang



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TractorMike

04-15-2005 20:09:49




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
For got to mention that it's got the 351 cleveland engine with C-6 transmission



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Lincoln

04-15-2005 19:59:20




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
I had a 1973 Mustang Mach I. Parts are available for every other Mustang but the 71, 72, and 73. For these years good quality parts are hard to find, especially body parts I searched for ever to find inner fender wells, and never did find any. There will be lots of hidden rust once you tear into it also. The car you are describing sounds like it is in pretty tough shape. You may be money ahead to spen more for one in better shape. On the other hand once done, it would be a heck of a car.

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adamMN

04-15-2005 19:58:13




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
two years ago i bought a 73 mach 1 less engine and trans for 1200.00 but the body and frame ware really nice, just needs floorpans. i think you can spend a little more and get a better car that is not a rust bomb. mine now sports a warmed up 429 thunderjet and a c6, havent had it on the road but i cant wait! good luck




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jhill

04-15-2005 19:46:47




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
Iy would be a big project but those kind of cars are really popular now. If it has the big engine it might be worth it.



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Engineer20

04-15-2005 19:03:06




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to TractorMike, 04-15-2005 18:57:29  
Wow, that's one heck of a project! Maybe $500.00 bucks. The good thing is is that you can get almost any part for the mustang new from one of vendors. Californina Mustang, Dallas Mustang and a host of others.

Good Luck!



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kjm

04-15-2005 20:33:06




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 Re: OT... Mach 1 Mustang in reply to Engineer20, 04-15-2005 19:03:06  
buy it,and part it out, and sell it on ebay to make enough money to buy a good one!



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