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Kerry

04-20-2005 12:45:53

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What does everyone use or recommend to load tires?

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Rod F.

04-21-2005 08:39:51

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Re: Loading tires in reply to Kerry, 04-20-2005 12:45:53

I've used CaCl for years, and never thought anything of it. In the past year or so, I've basically come around to the opinion that wheel weights are the way to go, if they add enough weight, and aren't in the way. The money we spent on tubes, sand blasting and painting, not to mention the labor rates at the tire shop in the past year is enough to frighten anyone. Even if you change tires yourself, it's still extra time to deal with fluid. Cast isn't cheap, but I know it would pay me over the medium to long term. Something to think about.

Rod

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old

04-20-2005 17:45:18

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Re: Loading tires in reply to Kerry, 04-20-2005 12:45:53

I use wipe fluid to fill my tires, cost more then the calium but it will not eat the rims. I also fill my own and fix my own. If you want to know how to fill them drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a page out of an old manual telling you how to do so

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Dave_Id

04-20-2005 13:21:11

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Re: Loading tires in reply to Kerry, 04-20-2005 12:45:53

Most people use Calcium Chloride, but I've heard guys using beet juice, (obviously warm climate), and I've heard guys using used antifreeze. I guess in warm climates you can use just water, but it isn't as heavy.

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john in la

04-21-2005 04:29:40

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Re: Loading tires in reply to Dave_Id, 04-20-2005 13:21:11

Water may not be as heavy but it sure is cheaper.
That is all I use and every one I know in my area only uses water. But then again when the bird bath in the yard freezes only once or twice a year why would we go through the trouble of putting some kind of anti freeze in our tires.

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buickanddeere

04-20-2005 19:41:45

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Re: Loading tires in reply to Dave_Id, 04-20-2005 13:21:11

Beet Juice is a sugar syrup made from Sugar Beets.If it gets cold enough to freeze that stuff.We have a lot more serious problems to deal with.

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Dave_Id

04-20-2005 13:45:29

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Re: Loading tires in reply to Dave_Id, 04-20-2005 13:21:11

I bought a California tractor once. It had only water in the tires, and when they froze up here in North Idaho, the ice chunks tore the tube up. It took about five days indoors for the ice to melt enough for my tire guy to get the tire off the rim

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tire_guy

04-20-2005 18:01:29

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Re: Loading tires in reply to Dave_Id, 04-20-2005 13:45:29

I had a customer use engine antifreeze to weight his lawnmower tire and in two years the inner liner of to tire was ate up by the anitfreeze. I have another customer who does the cheapest method I know of. He fills tires with water in the spring and drains it out in the fall. Depending on the size of the tire I like to use RV antifreeze or window washer fluid for lawnmowers because they are not so corrosive.

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720Deere

04-20-2005 19:40:08

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Re: Loading tires in reply to tire_guy, 04-20-2005 18:01:29

I have never seen antifreeze eat a tire or tube. I have a lawn tractor that has had antifreeze in tubless tires for over 18 years and no problems. If antifreeze is so harmful to rubber than why are radiator hoses made of rubber?

There are several alternatives and the only one detrimental to the tractor is Calcium Chloride.

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tire_guy

04-21-2005 06:45:48

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Re: Loading tires in reply to 720Deere, 04-20-2005 19:40:08

Don't know what happened, just reporting what I saw. I do know from tires that there is a world of difference in compounds in rubber. My guess is that the liner in that tire was different rubber than radiator hoses. Another problem with green antifreeze that it is highly toxic to pets. It may not hurt the rim but a leak will kill Rover. Also it depends on the size of tires, a lawnmower tire uses maybe 5 gallons where a 13.6-38 uses 50 gallons. Pretty cashy to buy that much anitfreeze. Calcium Chloride is the cheapest is why it is used.

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720Deere

04-21-2005 19:54:09

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Re: Loading tires in reply to tire_guy, 04-21-2005 06:45:48

I agree 100% on the toxicity of green antifreeze. Used antifreeze is easy to come by for little or no cost. You just have to know where to look. Many construction or trucking companies are paying good money to dispose of large quantities every day. Most will give it away if you haul it off.

There is no doubt that CaCl is cheap to purchase, but you really need to account for the future costs as well. One tire puncture can be all it takes to destroy a rim. Leaking valve stems will do the same. Once that stuff leaks inside the rim you are pretty well done unless you break the tire down and clean everything out and get it dry before reassembly. Most people don't make that much effort.

I have chosen to avoid all corrosive, toxic or otherwise inconvenient liquid ballast. Since my tractor is used primarily for antique pulling, I load the tires with plain water and usually drain them in the winter. It sits inside all winter anyway, but why take a chance? This makes it much more convenient when you need to blow off some water weight to make a class. No hazzard and no mess. After draining if freezing is still a concern just add the appropriate amount of non toxic RV antifreeze.

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