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OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from seed ?

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IHC Red

05-20-2005 21:38:27




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I've tried this twice and not been very successful.

My first try was an utter failure. The trees came up and then quit growing.

My second attemt was with some Ponderosa Pine seeds. Jo tranplanted them outside and one of them made it through the winter and is showing signs of life.

Jo found a Colorado Blue growing next to a rose bush this spring. I transplanted and it shows signs of life too.

I'm just wondering if anyone has tried this and what your tricks might be.

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NEsota

05-21-2005 10:04:05




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 Re: OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from se in reply to IHC Red, 05-20-2005 21:38:27  
Some of my Austrian Pine trees were planted as seedlings by the CCC in 1942. Only about one year in 7 to 10 do any new trees start from seed that is dropped but when they do start, the survival rate is very good. Thousands of seeds are available each season but only a few are propagated. Nature would not have it any other way.



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Lou

05-21-2005 07:11:31




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 Re: OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from se in reply to IHC Red, 05-20-2005 21:38:27  
Are there any of these trees growing naturaly in your area? If not you could be in for big trouble from mother nature. Pine in particular like high well drained soil. Weve had lots of failures years ago by ignoring this fundimental. Good Luck



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Blackhole 49

05-21-2005 06:08:15




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 Re: OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from se in reply to IHC Red, 05-20-2005 21:38:27  
When we bought our house 21 years ago we purchased 1000 seedlings (500 Blue Spruce & 500 Black Walnut) from the State of MI for $150.00. The trees are now 25'(spruce) to 35'(walnut) tall. We lost about 20 of each due to mowing. They were planted in 5' rows that were plowed and disced and watered twice a week for the first year. after the grass grew back, I dug and ringed the trees with wood chips for the next 10 years. It was a lot of work but worth it. I made about $12.000.00 selling 150 spruce when they became too crowded.

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Joel Harman

05-21-2005 05:28:19




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 Re: OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from se in reply to IHC Red, 05-20-2005 21:38:27  
2-0 seedlings would cost you about 50 cents a piece thru your ncrs. Why try to re-invent the wheel?



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Midwest redneck

05-21-2005 03:27:25




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 Re: OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from se in reply to IHC Red, 05-20-2005 21:38:27  
About 10 years ago at my old house I took a maple seed from a tree in the front yard and planted it just to see if I could grow a tree. by the time I left the house in 1998 the little tree was about 15" high and had a little stem anchored in the ground. I dont know if the little maple is still there, I planted it in a flower bed behind the deck. I would recommend picking up saplings from an arborist, sometimes they are free and planting those.

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2x4

05-20-2005 21:59:26




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 Re: OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from se in reply to IHC Red, 05-20-2005 21:38:27  
sounds like you need to pick up an old forestry book on seeding & planting. Your problem is likely damping-off disease, a fungus that wipes out entire beds of seedlings.



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Bobg

05-21-2005 08:47:36




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 Re: OT: Any tricks for growing spruce/pine from se in reply to 2x4, 05-20-2005 21:59:26  
I work for the USDA/ARS and deal mainly with cool season grasses. One year we received som grasses from Alaska, put them in the greenhouse to make sure they were going to survive the shock of being uprooted. They all died, but I left the pots for 6 months just to make sure. One day I was checking the pots and a small green sprout was growing. I couldn't tell what is was so I left it. It turned out to be an evergreen, I haven't had time to ID it. It currently is planted in front of my house and is 8 feet tall. I didn't think it would survive in eastern Washington state.

Bobg

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