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Chad Franke

06-06-2005 07:26:04

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I just bought 2 W9 McCormicks, now have the task of getting them. I have lined up a trailer to borrow from a fellow board member. Now what is the best way to get them on the trailer (one per trip, obviously).

Details: Neither one runs, both have flat tires all around, one partly disassembled. Moved to where they are in the last year, so they aren't buried or grown into the ground...Keep in mind these are big tractors, not a little row crop.

I am thinking a comealong and start working to pull them up. Bring my ramps for the rear of my Sububan (lower the back of the trailer). Anyone have any better ideas or hints? Thanks for any help.

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Chad Franke

06-07-2005 13:59:26

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

Ok, thanks for everyone's comments. Called the local towing company, $75 per hook, plus $2.50 per mile. No thanks. The guy I'm buying from does have 2 Super M's, don't know if that would be enough to pull the W9's up on a trailer or not. Called one equipment hauler, said they don't load with flat tires. Called last place, should be able to pull them up on their semi, both on one load, $50 minimum local haul... I'm thinking it's well worth my $50 to have them do it, just have to hook on and yank them off the trailer when they get home...

Thanks again, I'll take pictures and post if anyone is interested.

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Leland

06-07-2005 09:11:44

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

I agree use the roll back they will have both of them moved before you can screw around and get one even 1/2 way loaded , and this way if some thing goes wrong like an accident while roading them his insurance has to pay not yours

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Dale in aaAr.

06-06-2005 19:45:28

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

I would do as one of the other post said,call a wrecker service with a roll back.This would take only a few minutes and then he could haul the other home,after all you said that you could sell one for scrap and still make money.The cost would be nothing compared to what you will have to go through just to move both tractors 8 miles.

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Dixieland

06-06-2005 17:38:24

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

A come-along is gonna be tough if it will even do the job. You would need more than one and some help. That is a risky way to get those tractors loaded. If you have a W9 with tires, would it be possible to take those off with the rims and put them on for loading. I know that is a bit much but those tractors are dead weight with good tires. Another option is a backhoe and use the hydraulics to pull it onto the trailer with chains or invest in a winch strong enough to move a train. If I was close enough to you I would be glad to help you because I have been in that situation myself and it is a tough job by yourself in this heat. Good luck and let us know what the result is.

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Willie2

06-06-2005 14:16:31

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

Easy way I found. Need about 50 ft. cable and a snatch block.
1. Back trailer to the front of tractor with ramps touching the front wheels of the tractor.
2. Unhook trailer from truck.
3. Run cable from truck hitch to a snatck block fastened to front tractor axle and back to a secure point on the front of the trailer.
4. Pull tractor on with truck.
Pulled many on this way. Don't even need to chock trailer.

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Dick L

06-06-2005 13:28:33

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

Pictures 13 thru 21 shows how we loaded an old dead Case with a Dorf of all things.

A Tug With A Dorf

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Redmud

06-06-2005 11:29:46

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

If there is a wrecker service near by, get them to come out with a rollback. He can winch it on the rollback, then tilt the bed down onto the tail of your trailer and it's all down hill from there. Then if the guy has enough cable on his winch, and he should. add a snatch block to the front of your trailer,[wrecker guy will have that also] run the cable thru the block and back to the tractor, then all you will do is chain the tractor down, and pay the guy... The last time I did this, the guy charged me fifty dollars, I gave him a 25 dollar tip and still think I got the best end of the deal. And it only took him about 30 minutes.

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old

06-06-2005 10:26:09

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

If they have a working starter and the engines aren't stuck you can use the starter to load them. I have loaded a lot of tractors that way. I use the lowest gear they have and just slowly roll them up, you do have to be careful not to burn up the starter by holding the switch to long.

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RustyFarmall

06-06-2005 09:24:08

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

Have you measured the width of the tractors? Will they even fit on the trailer? Those W9s are heavy tractors, is the trailer rated for that much weight? Does your tow vehicle have the proper towing capacity? If the answers to all of the above are yes then go for it. A come-a-long will work just fine for pulling the tractor onto the trailer, it's slow, but I have done it that way. You really need some kind of ramps for the trailer, you also need to place blocks under the rear of the trailer, otherwise the rear of trailer will go down, which in turn will raise the front of the trailer up, and you will lift the entire rear axle of the tow vehicle completely off the ground, which can become very interesting real fast. Don't ask me how I know.

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Chad Franke

06-06-2005 10:18:24

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-06-2005 09:24:08

It's a deckover trailer, so they should fit. I know how big they are, I have one that's fully loaded with weights, calcium, plus a dozer blade...there's a reason most people aren't really interested in them.

I will have ramps, wish I had a winch, I hadn't thought of needing to block the back of the trailer, but good idea. I have 3/4 ton Suburban, the trailer is heavy enough, the trip is about 8 miles, so no problem taking it easy speed-wise.

I imagine rear wheels up, no chocked wheels, and a big tractor going on a trailer could be "interesting"...

Thanks for the ideas.

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big fred

06-06-2005 12:20:50

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 10:18:24

I imagine rear wheels up, no chocked wheels, and a big tractor going on a trailer could be "interesting"..

We call it "trailer surfin'", it's an event in the Redneck Olympics. ;o)

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RustyFarmall

06-06-2005 13:36:15

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to big fred, 06-06-2005 12:20:50

When you are set-up for loading on a side hill, the "surfing" doesn't last very long. The truck and trailer sort of get into a bind real quick.

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Mike M

06-06-2005 10:23:00

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 10:18:24

Only 8 miles away. Drive or haul yours over there and use that dozer blade to push them on or a chain and drag them on.

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Chad Franke

06-06-2005 10:26:33

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Mike M, 06-06-2005 10:23:00

I wish it was that easy, mine is about 70 miles away on Mom's farm...

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JMS/MN

06-06-2005 08:58:59

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

If their is a tractor available, make a double-ended hitch out of 2-3 inch pipe and push it up onto the trailer. Handy around the home shop as well.

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Chad Franke

06-06-2005 10:19:45

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to JMS/MN, 06-06-2005 08:58:59

Not a bad idea, I will check and see if the guy has a tractor we could use. Have to pull them out away from the fence first. I imagine it will take quite a tractor to push a flat-tired W9 up a ramp...

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PaMike

06-06-2005 09:19:54

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to JMS/MN, 06-06-2005 08:58:59

Thats what we have. Works well. Make one up, its worth having around

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thurlow

06-06-2005 09:35:20

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to PaMike, 06-06-2005 09:19:54

Well, I was gonna second JMS's idea; guess I'll third it..... ...

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JMS/MN

06-06-2005 11:34:55

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to thurlow, 06-06-2005 09:35:20

Another option for loading is cocking the tow vehicle to the side, chock the trailer like others mentioned, and pull it up with a long cable or several chains, allowing you to bypass the tow vehicle. Paying a neighbor to pull with his tractor is an option, but if you are only 8 miles away, why not haul your own tractor over? Takes one extra trip to retrieve it. Once I loaded an R JD with a tractor I took along, and both fit on the trailer at once. Rainy night, slippery deck, now have a double-end hitch that goes around corners, but 'got 'er done!'

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Case

06-06-2005 07:49:36

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

Just last week I bought a dead 580CK(~8000lbs)and had the task of loading it. Air in the tires, got the loader up high enough to just clear the trailer ramps. Pulled the tractor around so that it would be lined up with the trailer(36ft gooseneck) unhooked trailer from truck, scotched trailer tires, and set a large wood block under the rear of the trailer. We then stretched chains the length of the trailer+, and pulled the tractor up on the trailer with the truck(04 dodge dually). Took longer to get set up than to get the tractor on the trailer. Good luck!

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Coloken

06-06-2005 07:42:39

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

It would help a lot if the tires hold air long enough to get it loaded. Good ramps and large winch. Posible to tow up with a long cable and another tractor. Be carefull.

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Mike M

06-06-2005 07:32:41

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 07:26:04

Winch.

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dej(JED)

06-06-2005 09:10:08

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Mike M, 06-06-2005 07:32:41

I have had some measure of luck using the starter, high gear and a charged battery. I have moved H & M Farmalls over 20 feet on a battrey that way. When the battery runs down I charge it off of the truck with jumpers. The 9 weighs about 4 tons and with flat tires you ahve got a real job there.

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Chad Franke

06-06-2005 10:32:35

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to dej(JED), 06-06-2005 09:10:08

I've done the starter trick before too, but doesn't work with a stuck motor, or a disassembled motor, dealing with one of each...

By the way, at 4 tons, I could sell one of the two for scrap and make $100 on the pair... I doubt they weigh 8000 pounds since they don't have any weights on them, but they are big. My other W9 is around 11,000 if I remember right...

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Wil

06-06-2005 12:06:25

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Chad Franke, 06-06-2005 10:32:35

2 good hand winches and a beer drinking buddy...been there done that. We found out with 2 winches that neither one of us could keep up with the other and it didn't take near as long to get the tractor (with steel wheels and about 8000 lbs) on the trailer.

Wil

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Ol Chief

06-06-2005 19:07:46

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Re: How to load dead tractor in reply to Wil, 06-06-2005 12:06:25

I think Willie 2 has an excellent proposal.Have done a lot of heavy marine work with snatch blocks very effectively.Might add,if you can load using a double sheave block it should be a snap,but will require a lot more cable.I have only ever loaded a dead one.That using an electric wiinch aided with starter and lowest gear.It worker OK but was slow going and hard on starter and battery.I had no snatch block or cable.

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