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Hound

07-05-2005 07:54:47




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Good day folks. I have a problem. My little S10 quit. It will turn over but won't start, has fuel. Coil gets hot, really hot. (tried a different coil)....the odd thing is... is that once I stop trying to start it, and turn the key all the way off, the engine seems to turn backwords a bit like it has had the pressure taken off of it. Does that make sense? I was thinking starter solenoid not releasing, hence the hot wire/ coil, but it turns over like crazy. Thanks in advance. Hound

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Chris Vangel

07-05-2005 08:19:46




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Hound, 07-05-2005 07:54:47  
Howdy, What engine is in truck? I have seen the 4.3 liter engine be off as little as only 5 psi on it's fuel system pressure and the engine will not start and act as you describe. What year is the truck? The only true way to know about having fuel is using a pressure gauge. It's not just enough to have fuel, you must have enough, and the newer trucks are extremely picky. Will the truck start and run on carb cleaner? If so, the fuel pressure is very first place to look. I believe the pressure on the 4.3 vortec is 55-60 psi. If it is close, check the fuel filter. If pressure is still low, it is most likely the pump, and it's in the fuel tank. Granted, this info is only good if you have a newer truck and a multiport 4.3 liter engine. I hope it helps. Chris.

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Hound

07-05-2005 08:28:52




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Chris Vangel, 07-05-2005 08:19:46  
..its an 88, 2.8l. I thought they were still the "low" pressure fuel pumps. I would have to look it up to be sure though. They aren't as picky about the psi are they? I still think its in the ignition system starter/ distributer somewhere. Hound



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Chris Vangel

07-05-2005 20:54:45




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Hound, 07-05-2005 08:28:52  
You are correct, that system is throttle body injected and runs fuel system pressure between 9-15 psi. Does it run on carb spray?



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Bob

07-05-2005 10:28:56




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Hound, 07-05-2005 08:28:52  
Battery voltage is applied to the coil, and the other side of the coil is connected to the ignition module. When the ignition is "ON", but you're not cranking the engine, the module is supposed to shut down the coil circuit, so not current is flowing.

When you crank the engine, the module senses this, and turns the primary current back on.

It sounds like the module has "fried", and is shorted, making full current flow through the coil at all times, without even interrupting it to make ignition sparks. When you turn the key "off", this coil current is shut down, making ONE spark.

Replace the ignition module, being sure to clean the mounting area, and use the supplied heat conductive grease.

On an older vehicle like this, often I replace the ignition pickup coil, also, because the years of "baking" over the hot engine can make the insulation fail, causing intermittant stalls, or no-starts. That requires removal of the distributor, though, and re-timing of the ignition.

If the module HAS failed, it may be just old age, but a bad spark plug wire can cause electrical spikes that can take out a module, too.

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Hound

07-05-2005 10:49:33




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Bob, 07-05-2005 10:28:56  
Thanks Bob. I re-removed/ reinstalled the old coil this morning and it bench checked out, ok. I was heading that way (distributor). Thanks for pointing me in that direction.

My manual says that the module shouldn't hold 10 volts or if it does drops, the coil wire shouldn't spark. Either way bad module. Sound right?

Thanks again. Hound



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Bob

07-05-2005 12:27:47




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Hound, 07-05-2005 10:49:33  
I'm not familiar with that "drop 10 Volts test", but I'll bet a new module will fix you up!



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Hound

07-05-2005 13:29:53




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Bob, 07-05-2005 12:27:47  
...pat yourself on the back. got the module out of my parts truck (87 s10, 4 cyl.), put it into my 88 s10 6 cyl. works like a charm. Thanks Bob. Hound



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Bob

07-05-2005 14:27:15




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 Re: ..ot..little chevy truck...problem in reply to Hound, 07-05-2005 13:29:53  
"Don't you just love it when a plan comes together!"



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