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6N's Short

07-17-2005 11:56:03

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Can anyone recommend a good (new) welder that I could buy to get me started? I have torches and tanks but only use them for cutting. I would like to get a modern style welder. I am interested in doing some sheet metal repair and could use to do some light work welding stock steel together to make various things. It would not be anything heavy. I don't want to be a professional welder....I have one of those on call if I need him. I just want to be able to do the smaller jobs myself. Someone said a TIG or MIG, not sure which, would be good for patching sheet metal? Would appreciate any recommendations.

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T_Bone

07-18-2005 01:14:54

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to 6N's Short, 07-17-2005 11:56:03

Hi 6N,

Stay way from the small Mig machines. Unless you get into the 250a Mig's your wasting your money unless light gauge welding is all your going to do.

A Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC or Lincolns AC/DC machine is a good home shop machine. You can even add Tig scratch start for under $100.

Gas welding with OXy/Acet can do very thin SM to very heavy plate. It's all in the technique used.

Do a search on the tool forum for hundereds of great threads on welding and consider a course at your local Voc-tech school.

T_Bone

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07-17-2005 19:14:52

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to 6N's Short, 07-17-2005 11:56:03

Hey 6,
Check out the Millermatic 135... MIG, that is. You can buy a less expensive machine, but you'll be money ahead to spend the couple extra dollars it takes to get a machine that'll use solid wire with gas... you'll get super nice welds and the ability to weld anything from the thinnest steel (tin work on yer tractor) up to about 3/16". I've heard nothin' but good about those machines! I use MIG for just about everything... quick & easy and GREAT welds! The only disadvantage is that if you're welding outside in a breeze, your gas gets blown away (produces a porous weld)... but it's usually not that much of a problem. HTH!
Regards, DL

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6N's Short

07-18-2005 06:50:55

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to DL, 07-17-2005 19:14:52

Thanks DL and everyone else! I'll look into that Miller welder and see about maybe a VocEd class too. I tried the high school but wasn't real impressed with what was offered. Maybe I should give them another look too. Thanks for all the help!

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txgrn

07-17-2005 15:46:11

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to 6N's Short, 07-17-2005 11:56:03

Tractor Supply has a little "Farmhand 75" MIG type wire feed welder for about $100 that works pretty good for the price, if you aren't picky. It uses flux wire and doesn't require any gas which is much cheaper and less inconvenient in both mobility and in having to go to the gas (welding) store.

I use it for jobs that you describe. I just set it on the workbench and plug it into 115v and away I go. Real portable (hand caried) and convenient. Again it doesn't do a real pretty weld, but it welds tight and strong and you can grind it if you want it to look pretty. You can weld tin with it or thick stuff....just depends upon how long you stay in one spot depositing wire.

Mark

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6N's Short

07-17-2005 16:54:23

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to txgrn, 07-17-2005 15:46:11

Thanks for the info Mark! I can go a bit more than $100 if it would get me something that would do a nicer job. Are these MIG welders easy to learn? I had the old Lincoln 225 AC that I bought at an auction and never used it. Could not control the thing and it scared the poop out of me. Torches are great cutters and I bet I could weld with them if I practiced, but too much heat for tin I think.

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txgrn

07-17-2005 17:26:00

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to 6N's Short, 07-17-2005 16:54:23

Give T-Bone a yell. He seems to be an avid (maybe professional) welder. I do know the ones with gas do a beautiful job.

Mark

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RickL

07-17-2005 13:09:33

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to 6N's Short, 07-17-2005 11:56:03

stick or mig will both do you fine. I still only use stick on everything I do. You still just need to learn your rods and temps. The litte Miller thunderbolt unit would be a good choice.

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txgrn

07-17-2005 16:00:29

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to RickL, 07-17-2005 13:09:33

I have the Miller (may be a thunderbolt) stick, 220v, 200A ac-dc and it does most everything.

I used 1/8" 7018 sticks on real thin stuff till I got this Farmhand. Grant you, if you can get the Miller on it (not too thin) in dc mode with the 7018, it puts out a mighty pretty weld.

I only paid $250 for mine about 10 years ago.

Mark

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old

07-17-2005 12:21:32

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Re: Welder recommendations? in reply to 6N's Short, 07-17-2005 11:56:03

For lite welding you will want a mig welder. A stick welder will not work for thin stuff

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