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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 04:25:52

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Hi Guys,

Spent the better part of yesterday knockin' down this wheat stubble getting ready for some alfalfa seeding.

Sure felt good to get back out there again. :>)

Allan

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Brian R.M.

08-04-2005 17:42:28

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Allan- What size tractor are you using and how did you bang up the muffler? You"ve got a nice farm.
Thanks.

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 17:51:39

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Brian R.M., 08-04-2005 17:42:28

Hi Brian,

When I bought the tractor the muffler was like that; hail damage, it looks like to me.

It's an 1980 IH 686D that is supposed to be something like 64 horse, I think.

Allan

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Wi Craig

08-04-2005 16:18:39

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

My 8n never looked that good. Conversion? Nice!

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Mark - IN.

08-04-2005 16:14:34

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Hey Allan.

Back in the saddle? Alfalfa? Round hay baler too, you were askin about awhile back? Them's horse words. Gotta start pasturin it off. LOL.

Speaking of discs, today I was movin down the interstate and saw a Challenger out there with a set like I've never seen before. Probably 20+ inches in diameter, notched, but the thing that caught my eye were maybe 1.5" to 2" thick almost to the edges. I caught him in a turn. That guy sure made quick work of that ground, and he was haulin a$$.

Havin fun are ya? Good therapy huh? By the way, what kind of horses? LOL.

Mark

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billOH

08-04-2005 14:58:26

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Seems to me you're jumping the gun with the alfalfa. I don't know about out west, but here in OH we have to wait until fall to do fall planting.

Am I missing something?

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 15:50:32

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to billOH, 08-04-2005 14:58:26

Hi Bill,

I've never planted alfalfa in the fall, but the big boys tell me that afalfa should be planted the 2nd week of August and of course, wheat is always all in by the 10th of September here.

Allan

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JDB

08-04-2005 10:13:35

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Be careful. Dont say saddle too loud your wife may be listening. Nice pictures, thanks for sharing. Brings back memories of disking with the 806. Looks like you could use some rain.

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c hess

08-04-2005 09:53:35

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

My thoughts- raised alot of alfalfa in Pa long time ago- seeded in spring an fall -both ok. For fall we disc wheat just as you did - than but also packed an packed than sewed with press drill - idea being to get seed in drill scours so little seeds were protected from wind an dry weather an being low in furrow were close to moisture.

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RustyFarmall

08-04-2005 07:40:08

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Allan, what to do about the left over dead furrows? The farm I grew up on had quite a few acres of flat river bottom. This land had never been tiled to assist with drainage, but instead the previous owners had plowed the land to purposly create ridges, the theory being that the top of the ridge would be dry enough to farm, and the valleys would assist in carrying off the excess water. In practicality, it did not work that way, even in a dry year we still had wet spots that could not be farmed. To alleviate this problem we began disking those fields at a more or less 45 degree angle to the rows. It took several years of tilliling the ground in this fashion, but we eventually eliminated those ridges. I would think you could do the same thing on your flat ground, eventually eliminating the dead furrows.

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 07:48:12

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-04-2005 07:40:08

You Bet!

That be what I'm doing. :>)

Allan

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migraine

08-04-2005 07:02:38

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Great pictures Allan. Did you need a bath last night or you just hose tractor and yourself off at the end of the corral> Did you have to set the angle up on the gangs to get er to dig or soft enough to leave her flat? Good to see you going but less fun when the fuel truck leaves the ticket at the barrel huh! Remember your straw hat today. Later Migraine

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 07:13:03

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to migraine, 08-04-2005 07:02:38

Hi Ol' Bud,

I've never "unangled" a disc. It's either all full-tilt or nothin'. :>)

The little guy has the furrow fillers, so is leaving a nice flat finish. My problem is those silly left over dead furrows from the one-direction plows used in years gone by.

But, that's another chapter and another arguement..... ..... :>)

Allan

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migraine

08-04-2005 07:32:04

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 07:13:03

Agree. After using a two way plow the last few years and seeing how nice you can lay those furrows together and the time saved on the ends, I can't imagine going back to the one way. Just start along one side and work your way back to the barn. Makes perfect sense to me. You are going go at a slight angle the second time with the disc I assume and then drill and drag a coverbar or something? Migraine

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 07:46:43

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to migraine, 08-04-2005 07:32:04

Yes Sir,

Second pass with the disc will get an opposing angle, then plant straight to the world. Old habits die hard, I guess. :>)

Allan

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brian 1

08-04-2005 06:37:24

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Great work!
Looks like you were going so fast your SMV sign blew off the disk.

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dave from MN

08-04-2005 06:36:57

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

How many acres did ya purchase out there Allen?

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 06:50:17

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to dave from MN, 08-04-2005 06:36:57

Hi Dave,

The old farm is a nice rectangular 1/2 section, but only roughly 200 acres are tillable with the remaining 120 in pasture, shelter belts/hay yards and the building site.

Was hopin' it would support maybe 30 cows. Dunno, we'll see, I guess, 'cause the rains are few and far between out here.

Allan

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Mark - IN.

08-04-2005 16:27:39

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 06:50:17

Now Allan, you struck a nerve. Jumped into the work truck yesterday and caught the end of a caller on the radio that said his state EPA (didn't hear what state) is trying push a law to restrict the number of head of cattle. Say are putting too much acid into the ground and creating too much methane. Anyone hear anything like that? After hearing about a proposed national GPS to track milage for tax purposes, modeled after Oregon's proposed, nothing surprises me anymore.

Gonna have to do a google to see what I can find.

Mark

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Mike (WA)

08-04-2005 08:04:40

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 06:50:17

Dad always said you need fast cows for those dry places- cause they have to graze on a dead run to get enough to keep from starving to death. Yours doesn't look that dry, especially if your trying dryland alfalfa. Hope the rains come. Are you in the northwest part of Nebraska (is that the part they call the "sandhills")?

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 08:46:45

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Mike (WA), 08-04-2005 08:04:40

Hi Mike,

100 miles west of the sandhills; up towards the Wyoming/South Dakota line.

Allan

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Norm in Alabama

08-04-2005 06:24:53

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Great pic's. Makes me wish I was back in Kansas again on the farm. Allen, is that really you a discin and not one of your hands? Sure good to see a "man of the plains" doin his thing. Wish I could join yuh. Norm

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Coloken

08-04-2005 06:22:22

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

"feels good to be back"..You'll get over that. No! I hope you never do. As for not plowing..you made your choise, so don't lay awake nights worrying about it. Farming is not a cut and dryed thing.You say dryland is new to you so maybe dualls are to--Don't horse them around at the corners. I mean it- axles break. I knew one farmer with 3 806's. He kept a spare axle in the shop. Got one quarter of an inch last night. Hope you do better, Kennyp

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John A.

08-04-2005 05:29:32

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Allan, It dawned on me just now that even thought you are not planning on a cover crop for your baby alfalfa you just may get one anyway, with the Volunteer that comes up later. Since it is your first plowing. That may be just the right amt of cover to keep the little alfalfa from getting sand burn if it turns off dry the the main part of winter and spring! I really do think that some cover would be better than none. Anyway good luck and enjoy you time up in the Saddle! After awhile My Friend!
Later,
John A.

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 05:49:27

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to John A., 08-04-2005 05:29:32

Hi John,

I'm really questioning my strategy here.

This whole place is screamin' at me to give it a good dose of the plow, humus is almost nil, but I don't wanna plow it for the very reasons you are talking about.

My original plan was to smack it twice with the disc, just drill it and cross my fingers that it would take. Dunno, that's a lot of money to just throw out there in seed, if the rains don't come and it doesn't bite this fall. :>(

Guess I gotta gamble tho; that's the name of the game.

Allan

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txgrn

08-04-2005 05:09:00

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 04:25:52

Wha'd you do about the flat?

Nice pics (as usual).

Now it looks like your tractor is too big for your plow so you'll need to go spend more money and get a bigger disc.

What about turning corners with duals.....course with your spread (as far as the eye can see) you only turn around once a day....har har.....I really thought that was funny....still laughing...Hope you did too. Grin.

Mark

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 05:21:33

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to txgrn, 08-04-2005 05:09:00

Mornin' Mark,

Yep, it would appear that I have way too much horse for the milk wagon. Might have to do something about that next year, but that little feller sure does a nice job.

Did you notice the old "dead furrow" in front of the tractor? Don't think I'll never get used to seeing that in a field. :>)

Flat only cost $9 to repair; what a deal, ay?

Allan

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txgrn

08-04-2005 18:39:52

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 05:21:33

If you're talking about the little gap you get between the inner discs, I put a 6" sweep on mine to cut that out. Set it to cut about 2" shallower than the tip of the discs and mount it with a heavy bracket. Your IH frame is made just for that....nice and rigid right where you want it. One thing I like about IH discs...their rigid frame....makes the discs work against each other and the ground has no place to go but where you want it....cut up. JD discs do a lot of flopping around and I don't think they cut as good.

Mark

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Allan in NE

08-05-2005 04:18:17

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to txgrn, 08-04-2005 18:39:52

Hi Mark,

No, I was talking about that old plow furrow that is about 20 yards in front of the tractor. It runs at an angle to my cut and is a definete "ditch". :>)

Allan

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txgrn

08-05-2005 04:24:12

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-05-2005 04:18:17

Ok. I saw it but thought it was a "road" that someone made while harvesting or something. Seems like if you drive 2 vehicles along the same path your crop dies and you have a road...around here.

Mark

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Illinois Boy

08-04-2005 07:37:31

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 05:21:33

Great pictures Allan - gonna be a real nice farm!!

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steveormary

08-04-2005 09:54:58

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-04-2005 07:37:31

Allan

Disk it twice,harrow it once and sow the alfalfa into dry ground and wait for a rain.

What do you get,about 5 acres /hr with that rig? What gear are you runing in?

Have fun and be careful. steveormary

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 12:39:43

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to steveormary, 08-04-2005 09:54:58

Hi Steve,

I'm clear down in third gear so that I can keep the ground speed down to 'bout 5 mph.

Gotta find me a bigger disc fer next year. I just didn't know these Germans could pull this hard.

That disc would have been working my old 656 to the governor, but this tractor just plays with it.

Allan

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steveormary

08-04-2005 17:10:27

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 12:39:43

Allan;

That is a good speed. On my 706 ger. that would be 4 and low and pretty good throttle.

steveormary

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Leland

08-05-2005 01:17:39

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to steveormary, 08-04-2005 17:10:27

the old 706 I used to drive would pull that disk in H3 with the TA forward in stalks .

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steveormary

08-05-2005 09:19:37

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to Leland, 08-05-2005 01:17:39

Leland

I was pulling a 15"MF Tandem with a bar harrow on it yet. Most of my disking was for preping plowed ground for seeding alfalfa,oats or rye. I have probably disked stalks in 1 or 2 and hi and ta up.

Retired now. steveormary

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Leland

08-05-2005 13:38:07

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Re: Back In The Saddle! in reply to steveormary, 08-05-2005 09:19:37

those old 7's would suprise a person some days

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