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billcrews

08-30-2005 05:27:46




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I have put down a binder on a gooseneck trailer and am trying to decided on a couple of options.

The first is length of the trailer. The stock trailer is a 27+5 with dual tandem wheels and axles. There is an option to make it longer or shorter. I am pulling the trailer with a Ford F-350 6.0 Diesel Truck. I want to be able to haul two tractors, a big one (John Deere 830) and a smaller one (McCormick Deering W-6). I don't want to go an inch more than I need to, but I also don't want it to be to short. Taking into consideration what I have just said, what length of trailer do you think I need?

Another option is lowering the trailer a few inches, which requires "piercing" the I-Beam frame. This is a $500 option, which probably also requires some additional secondary framing costs. Lowering the trailer will give a better angle when loading the tractor. Should I pursue this option?

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Stum

08-30-2005 11:03:09




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
Is that a single wheel p/u or dually.Either way you are going to be right at the limit for the truck, and more than likely over.I wouldn"t even consider it if it"s a single rear wheel.With both tractors(16,500#),and the trailer,(4-4500#)misc chains, binders etc,you are in the 21-22000# range plus the weight of the truck(6500#). Hope you have a CDL,and the scale guys will love you!



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Dick L

08-30-2005 12:47:18




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to Stum, 08-30-2005 11:03:09  
I was not thinking that much weight when I posted a picture to show the space tractors take up on a 20 ft trailer with a 5 ft dovetail.
The tractors in the picture are right a 10,000 pounds. My ton truck will take these three tractors where ever I wish at high way speeds but I would not want much more weight. The Oliver 77 on the trailer weighs 4500 and when I swap it for the Oliver 88 at 6500 pounds it is to much weight for the truck on hills. One time with that much weight and I only put two tractor on when one is the 88. I never try to put anything else on the trailer when I load the Oliver 1650 or one of the 1850"s. I would guess that the 830 would be close to the weight of the 1650. I understand that the goosenecks will handle a bit more weight than the pintal hitch that I have.
I have a fifth wheel tilt bed trailer that weighs 8000 pounds by its self and it is a load with a backhoe loaded with a ton truck. I just go from farm to farm with it. Bout 45 mph with the rpm"s up.

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Mydeere

08-30-2005 09:37:08




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
I have a 30' gooseneck ,25' + 5' that I haul my tractors on. It will fit two large tractors on with ease and you could probably fit three narrow fronts on if you were creative. I have had a Farmall HV and JD 730 fit on it at the same time comfortably. Depending on where you are located and where you plan to use your truck and trailer rig, I would not go much longer then the stock length your looking at. Here in the Northeast our roads are a little tighter then the ones out in the west and mid-west so anything bigger becomes a real challange to drive with. My other suggestions would be to get the third ramp at the rear when you order the trailer. It doesn't pay to try and build it youself and I would go for the tandem duals over the tri-axle set up. The tri-axle have a tendency to make the tires roll on the rims when making tight turns and cause excessive wear to the tires.

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havvey

08-30-2005 09:26:23




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
I think first you should look at weight, i wonder if theat is an overload for a one ton?? is a third axel a better option?



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T_Bone

08-30-2005 08:12:45




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
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Hi Bill,

In June 05 I bought a Legend 27+5, 10k Dexter dual oil bath tandum duals, Cooper tires, 19# 12" I-beam, 3"channel on 16" centers, 6" channel side rails, 2-1/2"x 3/8" rub rail, 4x2 stake pockets, 2spring assist 20" ramps, rubber mounted lites (all of them), side turn signals, 10" GN frame, Bulldog landing gear and hitch, 6" torque tube, $6400 out the door.

I hauled back two tractors about the same weight and size your wanting to haul plus a loose cab and had extra room for another tractor but not the weight capicity. Remember that's really a 40ft long trailer. If I was only going to haul two tractors and that's it, then a 20+5 would be more than enough room.

The 6"torque tube is supposed to keep the frame from flexing at the front corners or bending the deck. I'll reserve my thoughts on that after a proven time period. The mfg stated the guys loading round hay bales state the trailer deck doesn't distort after time.

If your ever thinking about using the entire flatbed then get the 3rd loading ramp as then the 5ft dovetail is flat. You can't build the 3rd ramp as cheap as the mfg.

T_Bone

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Mike M

08-30-2005 07:59:36




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
I would like agree with the one who said look into better brakes than plain electric. I have a 20 + 5 dual tandem I like the 5 foot ramps and beaver tail, not a problem to load.The newer trailers seem to be lower than mine as they use torque flex axles with no springs.My hieght has not been a problem. I wish I had better brakes. I'm glad I also put a winch on it too.



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Dick L

08-30-2005 07:48:36




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
I haul two tractors as much as I haul three. I would not want a shorter trailer. The trailer in the picture is 20 ft plus a 5 ft dovetail. With the 20 ft trailer I can load an Oliver 77 along with an Oliver 88 and I have room to balance the load no matter which tractor I load first. I can do the same with one large tractor and one smaller one. I have found that once you have a trailer that you haul many different tractors and machinery types than what you thought before buying the trailer.

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RustyFarmall

08-30-2005 06:21:14




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
I assume that the 27 feet is for the deck, and the 5 feet is for the dovetail? 27 feet of useable deck should be enough for the two tractors mentioned but another few feet of length sure wouldn't hurt. The low profile option definately should be considered, not only for reduced total height but also a lower center of gravity which will improve stability. My next trailer WILL HAVE that option. Do you have any options on the brakes? I have been hearing about an electric over hydraulic system that sounds like a much better deal than just electric brakes.

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thejdman01

08-30-2005 05:50:58




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to billcrews, 08-30-2005 05:27:46  
cant comment on length dont know with those 2 tractors. but i would want it as low as possible for loading but also for driving stability also alot of towns have smaller bridges. its a real pain to unload drive truck and trailer under and reload. with those 2 tractors height should never be a problem but you never know and alot of towns theoretically you should be able to fit but a few 4 inch repaves and there isnt 12 ft anymore. dont ask me how i know. if your hauling alot esp not on highways i would get it as loow as possible

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Lone Star

08-30-2005 06:21:04




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 Re: Gooseneck Trailers in reply to thejdman01, 08-30-2005 05:50:58  
Why not park the tractors in the yard or shop like you plan on hauling them on the trailer and then use a tape measure to see what the shortest trailer you could use would be? Sometimes when trailers are lowered the builder puts fender wells over the tires. The load area isn't all flat anymore. The fender wells might be in the way of how you plan on loading the tractors. BTDT.



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