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On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question ....

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MMB

06-03-2007 11:35:15




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I've got a nice big juicy roofing nail in my rear truck tire and have a slow leak. I'm going to repair it but I thought I might try the "do-it-yourself" kit for repairing this time. Never did it before but I thought I might save myself $15 that it costs to repair the tire here locally. I've already got one of the home repair kits but maybe I'm being a bit tightfisted on this one. Any advice on doing this (or not doing it) before I give it a try. I guess I can always get it fixed later if my attempt doesn't work out well.

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JDB

06-04-2007 10:44:19




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
I have been using plugs for many years now both for on and off highway and have never had any problems yet. Bought the plug kit and refills at NAPA, not sure if Walmart would be of similar quality or not. I was skeptical at first, but now, I'm a believer



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Matt in the Thumb

06-04-2007 10:26:44




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
I work at a Walmart tire center, and we repair tires using a combination plug/patch. Has a plug portion attached to a patch to seal the hole both inside and out. We charge $9.50, which includes rebalancing the tire. Heck of a deal!



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Walt Davies

06-03-2007 21:20:31




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
NO!!!!
Walt



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Walt Davies

06-03-2007 21:23:18




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to Walt Davies, 06-03-2007 21:20:31  
OOP! wrong place well any its the right answer. in most states its against the law to repair a tire while still on the rim.
Walt



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iowa_tire_guy

06-03-2007 19:30:12




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
As a tire shop there is far too much liability to plug a DOT tire. Also I wonder why anyone would pay me to do what they can do themselves. If I find a plug in a tire that isn't leaking I will cut it off and put a patch over it on the inside while I'm in there. To say a plug never leaks is a lie also because I fix leaking plugs all the time. And a plug will damage a belt if it does not follow the path of the injury so there is still a unsealed hole in the inner liner of tire. This allows the air to get trapped in between the belts so they separate. Also you never know what the damage to the tire is unless you are inside so when you plug a tire you are assuming there isn't a larger injury than what it appears. It is acceptable to plug a tire from the inside out because you know you are sealing the injury and it isn't too large. And according the Tire Manufactures Association you are to plug and patch tires from the inside to seal the air leak and to seal water from getting to the steel belts.

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dave guest

06-03-2007 19:00:55




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
Did my own for 20 years. If all the plugs I put in came out at the same time, be a heck of a noise. Don't always work, probably 90% if tire is reasonable condition and hole is not gigantic.



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Russ from MN

06-03-2007 18:08:25




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
I have had great luck with plugging kits, I think the kind with a tube of sealant-lubricant the best. I have plugged everything from 4-wheeler tires to 18.5x24 industrial.



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budn

06-03-2007 17:34:50




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
I have plugged many tires and never had one fail. As stated earlier if the belt was damaged it was from the original puncture.



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John17

06-03-2007 13:52:25




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
Please take the tire in for the correct type of repair. Not only does plugging a tire void the warranty, it is not safe for highway speeds. Now, on the other hand, if you have a tire that does not go down the road, go for it. JohnG



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RAB

06-03-2007 13:36:59




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
That type of repair is illegal in the UK. They have to be removed and patched properly. Prevents those loonies/amateurs that would plug a tyre where the belting is damaged beyond safe repair. Used to be able to do a temporary repair (plugs were red) but think they may be outlawed now. I would not be keen on relying on a plug which might fail at high speed or on a busy road. Better to be safe. My 2p for what it"s worth.
Regards, RAB

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Larry in Mo

06-03-2007 12:52:48




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
When I was 18 wheeling I failed to notice a piece of trash on the road one day and put a hole in the sidewall on one of the drivers (radial). Stopped at a tire shop that I was acquainted with and they said not much to do for it. I said plug it to get me home. That was 50k on that tire and it lasted as long as the rest of the 7 drivers. BTW, plugging dose'nt damage the belt. Whatever caused the flat damaged the belt. LE

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dds-inc

06-03-2007 12:49:39




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
I had an on-rim car plug installed by a cheapie place in an emergency situation. I was scared of it for the longest time, but to this day, that danged thing is still in the tire with less than 1/4 tread left.



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MarkB_MI

06-03-2007 12:36:49




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
If you can get someone to repair the tire correctly for 15 bucks it's a bargain. I have a plug kit I keep around for emergencies because around here it is nearly impossible to find anyone who will fix a flat on the weekend. But for a repair to any tire I plan to drive on the highway, I take it in and insist that it be repaired off the rim.

One of my pet peeves is so-called "repairmen" who insist that a plug is a good as a patch. (Of course it's even better for them because they can plug a tire on the vehicle in a couple of minutes, but it's hard work to repair a tire off the rim.) If a shop even suggests that they plug the tire on the rim, I walk out the door.

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omahagreg

06-03-2007 12:09:14




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
Years ago, I bought some pick up tires from a local tire shop. They closed down shortly afterwards, and I was told that Firestone was handling the road hazard warranty I had purchased with these tires. I went in with 1 flat, and they told me they had tried everything to patch, but had to plug instead. They told me those tires would always need to be plugged. So I bought the kit and did it myself from then on, never had a problem with one failing. Greg

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dan hill

06-07-2007 05:07:25




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to omahagreg, 06-03-2007 12:09:14  
I have plugged tires for 50 years.Most were on the car.I use a kit from Nealey co.The plug should be at room temp when used.I took a snow tire off my wifes car that I had plugged on the car when changing to summer tires.The plug was swelled on the inside,no way it would ever come out.Maine has changed to patch only now.I have seen many patches that failed...



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Jim WJ

06-03-2007 12:00:36




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
MMB I have repaired many flats this way by using a plug kit. The brand of kit I use is called SAFETY SEAL. It works good on punctures that are not to large in diameter and not into the side wall.
Give it a try It should work good on a simple nail
hole and follow the instructions from the kit. Jim WJ



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Leroy

06-03-2007 11:53:17




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to MMB, 06-03-2007 11:35:15  
That sounds like a plug kit. Now I will not allow anyone to put a plug in a tire as they will cause the belts to break, have had that too often. Only remove and patch on inside.



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

06-03-2007 12:52:56




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 Re: On-Rim Tubeless Repair Question .... in reply to Leroy, 06-03-2007 11:53:17  
After several plugs with bad results I always have the tire removed and patched on the inside.



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