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Continental engine ignition problems - no more

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swips

09-29-2005 15:40:18




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Thanks for your input regarding my trouble getting a spark out of this old flathead FS162. I have not had a chance to revisit this till now. Instead I've been spending my free time on evenings watching the Yankees bust their butts to hang on and win each crucial game. Looks like the Playoffs will be in the cards for them after all. Every year we get this great Boston/NY series for the Penant race the last week of the season..stay tuned should be worth watching if you can get these games.

After getting my battery recharged, I checked coil to head spark and low and behold nice blue strong spark! Re-connected coil wire to dizzy and she started up right away!

What apparently happened to me was that as I replaced one ignition component after another and tried turning over the engine each time I was running down the battery which left me with too low a battery to get a spark while turning over the 6 volt starter.

One of the last things I did was rip out all the old wiring and jumper just the starter motor to ignition to battery. The wiring was apparently the real culpret anyway. It was spliced in many places with cracked insulation everywhere.

So my next question now that I can start this thing again is what I should do with the Generator/Voltage Regulator.

Can I get an Alternator to replace this (I'm not concerned with keeping it original)? If so which Alternator would be a match? This is 6 Volt Positive Ground. I have not tested the output of the generator yet to see if it is in need of work. I do know the voltage regulator needs to be replaced - lots of corrosion on it and contacts were arc'ed. I don't even know how to re-set the points on these so I am sure I did not re-set the correct gap after filing the points. I think new ones are available at NAPA. But I think I'd rather just switch to an alternator if I could get the correct one.

And is it worth looking into switching to an electronic ignition? Pertronix says they can supply one based on my Distributor - Autolite IAY.
Maybe not now since I just replaced cap, rotor, points/condensor and wires, but in the future perhaps.

Thanks for any advice you can give me!
swips
GO YANKESS!

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swips

09-29-2005 19:14:31




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to swips, 09-29-2005 15:40:18  
Doing a simple google search I found this link:

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

09-30-2005 15:15:54




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to swips, 09-29-2005 19:14:31  
Is there room for two batteries in the box? If so, just add the twin of your 6 volt, wire them in series, and you'll have the best possible starting battery pack.



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El Toro

09-30-2005 17:57:45




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 09-30-2005 15:15:54  
If this is a 6 volt system you need to parallel
the two batteries. Hooked in series two 6 volt
batteries will output 12 volts. Hal



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swips

09-30-2005 19:16:06




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to El Toro, 09-30-2005 17:57:45  
Would 2 6 volt batteries also not charge from 6 volt generator if wired in series? Since as you mention that would give you 12 volts? Unless he means also changing the alternator to 12 volts. But then I might as well just buy a 12 volt battery rather than another 6 volt?
As far as I know it's not good to match different batteries anyway - old one and new one even if they are identical, since a new battery will not carge at the same rate as an old one.

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El Toro

10-01-2005 04:08:45




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to swips, 09-30-2005 19:16:06  
If two 6 volt batteries are wired parallel you increase the cranking amps and the 6 volt generator will keep the batteries charged if working right. When two 6 volt batteries are hooked in series the output is 12 volts and this would ruin your coil & lights and the gen & reg.

When batteries are parallel the terminals are connected -to- and +to+. The same is with two 12 volt batteries hooked in parallel the output is 12 volts. If 12 volt batteries are hooked in series the output is 24 volts and this is used by the military. We used (8) 12 volt batteries hooked in series & parallel to get 24 volts for vehicles with big engines.

You are right it is better to use 2 good batteries. Hal
PS: I had a diesel pickup that had two 12 volt batteries hooked in parallel for starting.
I think I would use a 6 volt alternator if using 2 batteries.

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Glen in TX

09-29-2005 21:56:36




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to swips, 09-29-2005 19:14:31  
I've seen those alternators there. Never built one or ran one yet though. This place sometimes has new old stock 6V generators www.surpluscenter.com You can go with a Pertronix later when changing to a 12V alternator. Link below has some info on wiring 12V alternator conversions.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

09-29-2005 18:12:39




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to swips, 09-29-2005 15:40:18  
My Continental 162 has a Delco alternator in place of the generator. The small Delco has an internal regulator. The installer added a second toggle switch to control the 12v feed to the alternator, so you turn on two switches and hit the starter button to get going. I've only had the tractor a short while, but it seems to work fine. Of course the reversed polarity to 12 v, negative ground means the voltometer doesn't work. Likely if I reverse the wires it would, but I haven't bothered.

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old

09-29-2005 18:08:22




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 Re: Continental engine ignition problems - no more in reply to swips, 09-29-2005 15:40:18  
Well if you go with an alternator you will also end up with a 12 volt system. A delco alternator works well and is east to wire up. As far as ignition you will need to add a ballast resistor to the wire going to the coil but thats also easy.



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