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The rare tag...another example

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PeteNY

10-06-2005 08:28:42




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Guys, see the "rare" 1950 JD G wide front on the photo ads> My question is what's rare about it? It is nice, it is a G, and it has the wide front, so let's call it "desirable"? And to some that widefront means 3 things: ya need a football fiels to turn it, ya can only park 1 tractor in a space that normally holds 2, and you can only fit one on the roll back. Is it rare? ...or is it "desirable"> and is it $6500 desirable? Pete

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dr.sportster

10-07-2005 08:08:47




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to PeteNY, 10-06-2005 08:28:42  
If someone tells me something is rare I get a book and look up production figures to decide for myself.Most ads have some small element of BS,hype or falsehood.People cant sell stuff by highlighting the negative so if nothing is real positive they make something up that sounds good.



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John (MO)

10-06-2005 13:11:14




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to PeteNY, 10-06-2005 08:28:42  
Rare often means I want a lot of money for it so I have to call it rare in hopes of fooling someone into paying the big bucks.



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Dennis in MN

10-06-2005 12:33:15




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to PeteNY, 10-06-2005 08:28:42  
The dictionary defines "rare" as "infrequently occurring; uncommon". So, if you live in an area of only narrow front Model G's then you might consider a "G" with a wide front uncommon (hence rare). Would you prefer scarce, uncommon, or some other synonym for rare? I think some people worry too much about other people's business (or possibly are a little short on tolerance).



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PeteNY

10-07-2005 15:34:23




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Dennis in MN, 10-06-2005 12:33:15  
Dennis, Dave 2N is starting to carve you up...
Anyway, my point is that most people on here don't need to be told what is rare, and when they are, it usually isn't, so it is offensive. Yes I will appoint my self the official determiner of "rare", at least for the brands I know a little about, and JD is one of those, and a '50 wide front G is simply not rare, no matter how you cut it! Sorry but that's life...ya can argue that all you want, and it won't change, but if I were you, and I chose to continue this argument with Dave 2N, I'd head back to the local Community college to even up the playing field. Pete

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Dave 2N

10-06-2005 17:00:59




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Dennis in MN, 10-06-2005 12:33:15  
Com'on Dennis; you know what he meant. You are coming out of this looking a little bit like a "doofus."



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Dennis in MN

10-06-2005 18:53:42




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Dave 2N, 10-06-2005 17:00:59  
No, c'mon Dave what did he mean? Do you guys have some secret code or handshake? Maybe you want to explain it to the "doofus".



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Do you

10-06-2005 14:24:34




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Dennis in MN, 10-06-2005 12:33:15  
mean like you?



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Dennis in MN

10-06-2005 14:43:39




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Do you, 10-06-2005 14:24:34  
I'm not the one worrying about other people's business but, yes, I am short of tolerance for guys like you. I addressed the issue of the post. And your point is?



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Dave 2N

10-07-2005 03:41:25




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Dennis in MN, 10-06-2005 14:43:39  
....that you are a nitpicker who knows very well what the original issue was and are splitting hairs over semantics.

I don't think that the poster was "minding someone elses's business" or however you put it. He was just making a statement about an issue that frequently comes up on here, where someone either intentionally to try to get a higher price, or, because they don't really know what they have, will call a tractor "rare" when it isn't rare. For example, take a wide front Super C. Some people get all jacked up because they think they are rare and ask more than they are worth.

So..methinks for what ever reason (bad day, you're not feeling well, whatever), you chose to pick a fight over semantics when what the original poster's point is pretty much accepted and understood by the people on this board.

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Dennis in MN

10-07-2005 05:42:05




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Dave 2N, 10-07-2005 03:41:25  
And you are the self-appointed judge of "rareness"? You probably have a barn full of "rare" tractors, right? If you or others are so bothered by people using the "rare" word too frequently, why don't you contact the seller directly and quit harping on the same issue on this board. No, I'm not having a bad day, but you seem to be more than a little defensive.

Doofus



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Dave 2n

10-07-2005 14:14:28




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Dennis in MN, 10-07-2005 05:42:05  
My, my Dennis. YOU are calling ME defensive??? Wow!!! Figure that one out!!!

No--I don't have any rare tractors; the tractors that I own are the ones that I was interested in and crazy about as a kid in the late 40's and early 50's. Some of them are also models of the ones I drove on my grandfather's farm and my uncles's farm: for instance, Ford 2N, a Farmall M and a M-H 44. I still have a lot of affection for these tractors and would like to own a M-H 44 some day. Neither of those tractors are at all rare.

For example, I own----

46 Ford 2N
50 Ford 8N

52 Farmall Super C
53 Farmall Super H
54 Farmall Super M

52 John Deere B
48 John Deere A
54 John Deere 70

52 M-M RTU

So far, common as dirt, agreed??

I also have a 1966 Allis Chamers D10 III. I think there were only about 5,000 or 6,000 of the D10 III's made so that puts it in the "not so common" category but I wouldn't call them rare.

I still maintain that you understood the essence of what the original poster was saying yet for some reason, you became very DEFENSIVE about his post the the subsequent replies. No, I'm not the judge of "rareness" but agree with the original poster that some folks, for a number of reasons, jump way over the edge when they tend to call a pretty common tractor "rare."

And-your point about the wide front JD G being rare to soneone who saw only tricycles in his area holds no water. If that were the case, all of the big Wheatland tractors would be rare to me because we never saw many around here in our hill country. But go to the upper mid-west and Western Canada and you have to kick them out of your way just to walk around. So a geograhical region's lack of tractors that are common in other areas cetainly doesn't make that tractor rare.

I hope you can manage to have a good weekend.

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Dick2

10-06-2005 11:48:50




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to PeteNY, 10-06-2005 08:28:42  
If it is anything like our 1948 "G", the best thing would be to sell it for scrap, melt it down and hope it can be made into something worthwhile. (Our's had narrow front)



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Bobl1958

10-06-2005 10:40:11




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to PeteNY, 10-06-2005 08:28:42  
I think some people just have that salesman mentality, and some are finding the "neat" "catchy" phrases everyone on ebay is using and think it will help them sell their item. They think if they say "rare", surely everyone is stupid enough to want to buy what they have. Good thing for the seller is that sometimes there is someone right there ready to bite.



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Harley

10-06-2005 12:45:42




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Bobl1958, 10-06-2005 10:40:11  
Fellers, now it is all in your perspective. Down here on the ridge, a green tractor would indeed be rare, so I guess it's the same old thing. Location, location, location. Harley



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jfp

10-07-2005 04:23:37




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 Re: The rare tag...another example in reply to Harley, 10-06-2005 12:45:42  
Yeah, Harley they can't pull them hills as good.



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