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jr55

11-06-2005 03:49:53




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Does anybody know about how these things work, and does it void the warrinty?




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R Mills

11-08-2005 06:26:30




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  



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Tim Shultz

11-06-2005 14:41:04




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
get a bullydog down load.
better mpg and more hoss power.
dealers can"t tell you had it...
how can you go wrong?
Tim Shultz



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Tim Shultz

11-06-2005 14:39:16




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
get a bullydog down load.
better mpg and more hoss power.
dealers can"t tell you had it...
how can you go wrong?
Tim Shultz



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Can't even use my name

11-07-2005 20:17:14




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to Tim Shultz, 11-06-2005 14:39:16  
"Dealers can't tell you had it", Now I am not sure about Furds but most of the newest GM's will log ANY change to the computer even after you change it back. This is a fact coming from two technicians. One working for in the St. Joe County Police Garage. You wouldn't beleive all the crap he can pull up on those cars!



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JiminIA

11-06-2005 13:52:23




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
I Have had a "chip" programer in my truck for about 3 yrs now, no problems at all. I tow a 30' goosneck all the time. If you do put one in open up the exhaust, add a pyrometer and you will never want to be without it again. My truck would dog so bad on the hills I couldn't stand it, now it has plenty of power, shifts better. Mine is a 97 7.3 by the way. You wont regret it once...Jim



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thejdman01

11-06-2005 12:57:35




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
Horsepower and torque, properly used, will never hurt the driveline of today?s trucks. Anything can be beaten into the ground. Its up to you the driver to keep it ALIVE! Start out easy, roll into and out of the throttle and, even when you?re accelerating at highway speeds, apply the throttle with ease. If you roll smoke from your stacks you are pushing too hard on the throttle!



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mastevt

11-06-2005 11:02:01




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
I work in an ambulance shop. We have all 7.3l's , 55 of them, non chipped. They are very reliable. When I was at the ford school for the DIT update, I was told that yes that a chip will void the warranty, and when scanned by fords sbds or wds scanning equippment, the 1st thing it looks for is a chip, and if one is found, the scanner zaps it and disables it. Just for your info. the 6.0 have lots of problems, I have lots of contacts in this industry, and all say the same, don't get a 6.0l. We are currently waiting on the new 6.4L to come out before buying any more chassis for remount. hope this helps.

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dhermesc

11-07-2005 05:51:21




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to mastevt, 11-06-2005 11:02:01  
There is a huge differance between the 2003-04 6.0s and the 2005 and newer 6.0s, as much differance as there is between a 7.3 and the 6.0. The valves, heads and injectors are totally differant on the newer engine. My brothers have 3 2005s with the 6.0 and are very happy.

The early 6.0 is a world class POS on par with the deisels from GM in the early 80s, if not worse. We had 2 2003 Ford F350s with the 6.0, both ran up repairs exceeding $10,000 over the warranty coverage before they were sold.

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Rich Iowa

11-06-2005 10:50:18




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
I have a 1996 F250 w/ the 7.3L Powerstroke. There"s no way I"d put a chip in it. For 1, this truck has more power than anything else I"ve had. I believe those chip lead to reduced engine life, more wear and tear. I"m plenty happy w/ my truck, just wish it was a manual....



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bcarlton8

11-06-2005 10:09:30




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
I have a 2003 F-350, which was reportedly the first year that the 6.0 liter was built. I bought the truck earlier this year used and took it to a diesel mechanic shop that has a reputation for doing good work. To my shock,
the mechanic told me that the first 6.0 liter diesels engines that were built had a lot of problems and under no circumstance put a chip in it (he indicated that I was lucky to have no motor problems). He said that it may be okay to put chips in 7.3 liters and 6.0 liters built forward of 2004.

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Silver Pig

11-06-2005 09:05:56




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
You need to visit thedieselstop.com and read all the stories by the morons who "chipped" their vehicles, destroyed the engine and/or transmission, and are now mad at Ford because Ford will not honor the warranty. It couldn't happen to a finer bunch of a##holes. Some of then are even upset that even though they removed the chip prior to putting it in the shop, the dealer can still tell, by accessing the computer, that the vehicle had had a chip in it.
thedieselstop.com is the biggest source of misinformation out there, and is composed of nothing but wannabee truck drivers, high school kids dreaming of their "dream" truck, or those who think that they know more than Ford/Navistar engineers. The advertisers actively promote "chipping" and other fly-by night schemes and products.
Ford needs to take some of these owners and "manufacturers" to court and send a serious message to those who knowingly void the warranty.

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ih650

11-06-2005 08:43:26




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
DO NOT CHIP A 6.0L. You won"t hurt a 7.3 with 100hp. As far as warrenty, the new proggramers are undetectable when removed. I know this for a fact because I have worked on them for 18 years. 6.0"s are the biggest piece of junk yet but the 7.3"s are bullet proof. The lower-end of a 7.3 was built for 800hp. I know of one with 750hp and it runs great.



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thejdman01

11-06-2005 08:36:53




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
it ONLY voids the warrenty IF the product caused the problem ie if you add a chip the webbin gin the block cracks because of the extra power yes void warrenty. if you add a chip and the door handle breaks no thats still wareenty. its like the old wives tale you have to use oe oil and filters bull. if they can prove the problem occured becasuese of the oil they will not warrenty it but youd have a case agains pensoil or quaker state. you dont have to use oe oils jsut as long as you do it if they can tell the oil hasnt been changed in 2 years yes even though motorcraft oil straight from the factory it is void. pensoil doesnt void the warenty unless they can prove it was faulty oil that caused the problem. a chip wont void the warrenty unless the chip caused the problem ie mor e powr crack the block pistons etc etc then yes it will void the warrenty. but with a chip there gonna say it was that if you have any powertrain problems and you will have a hard time to prove that the dchip didnt cause it.

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thejdman01

11-06-2005 08:36:53




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
it ONLY voids the warrenty IF the product caused the problem ie if you add a chip the webbin gin the block cracks because of the extra power yes void warrenty. if you add a chip and the door handle breaks no thats still wareenty. its like the old wives tale you have to use oe oil and filters bull. if they can prove the problem occured becasuese of the oil they will not warrenty it but youd have a case agains pensoil or quaker state. you dont have to use oe oils jsut as long as you do it if they can tell the oil hasnt been changed in 2 years yes even though motorcraft oil straight from the factory it is void. pensoil doesnt void the warenty unless they can prove it was faulty oil that caused the problem. a chip wont void the warrenty unless the chip caused the problem ie mor e powr crack the block pistons etc etc then yes it will void the warrenty. but with a chip there gonna say it was that if you have any powertrain problems and you will have a hard time to prove that the dchip didnt cause it.

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e

11-06-2005 08:14:12




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
A chip will sure give those cheap powdered metal connecting rods a run for their money! Take a look at the difference in rods put in the Cummins vs. the old 7.3 powerstroke. The new 6.0 isn't much better.



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thejdman01

11-06-2005 12:41:36




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to e, 11-06-2005 08:14:12  
the connecting rod commarison is amazing loved that. would like to see that out of more engines. horsepower wont hurt an engine it honestly wont if there isnt a loose nut behind the wheel. if you ever have a chance ever read>Link
bruce>Link mallison is a diesel expert and really knows his stuff if you ever get a chance to read his articles read them they are truly worth while and truly good reading. i have talked to the man on the phone and would love to meet him
"I only a lot of power for pulling the mountains. But, I don?t want the engine to hurt itself. What can I do?"

Think about this statement. I don?t want my engine to hurt itself. Engines don?t hurt themselves. It?s the man with his foot on the throttle and hand on the shifter that hurts the engine.

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e

11-06-2005 08:15:18




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to e, 11-06-2005 08:14:12  
Let's try this again.



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Jerry/MT

11-06-2005 15:53:47




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to e, 11-06-2005 08:15:18  
What's your point? I see three rods, one labeled Ford. What Ford engine? The 7.3L Navistar, the V10 gas or the 6L? I assume the big rod is a Cumminns, from their in line six on the Dodge. All different engine designs, all different rods. If the Cummins is bigger maybe it has bigger loads and operates at higher temperatures because it boosted more so it needs a bigger rod. In the engine business, bigger isn't always better.

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mecanik69

11-06-2005 08:06:00




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
If you must have more power then put a Banks Power system on it. A friend of mine put one on and he is even getting better fuel mileage. Their website is www.bankspower.com



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Richard H.

11-06-2005 07:57:03




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
Let it alone! It will probably GRENADE on it"s own. Since 2003 those engines have been being put together totally by machine (ROBOTS). I know I worked there as an outside contractor wiring them up. International would love for you to put in a chip so they can blame you instead of themselves. Sad but true.... Richard



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Rimshot

11-06-2005 07:49:50




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
Why add more HP? It has plenty the way it is. I have a 2004 powerstroke and wouldn't want anymore power.



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11-07-2005 20:20:43




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to Rimshot, 11-06-2005 07:49:50  
Simple! All American men want two things... $ex and More Power! Duh!



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MSM

11-06-2005 06:58:46




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
The addition of a chip,or tuning device will void the warranty,they leave a teltale trace in the vehicles computer,even if the chip is removed before going to the dealer, it will be picked up by a diagnostic scan on the dealers computer.My brother in law just ate the bill for a new engine in his 2005 Ford after the dealer scanned it and found it had been chipped,Ford zone office backed the dealer.

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Aaron SEIA

11-06-2005 05:57:27




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to jr55, 11-06-2005 03:49:53  
Cheap ones just turn up the fuel, good ones adjust the timing, duration, fuel, adjust shift points in auto"s, etc. There are several good custom tuners that will give you just about whatever you want. As for the warrenty issue, I"m sure that if the truck maker found out that you added 50 or 100 horse and are discussing who is going to pay for a new clutch, tranny, driveshaft, or whatever broke, that the chip will be "discussed".
Aaron SEIA

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John M

11-06-2005 06:58:56




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to Aaron SEIA, 11-06-2005 05:57:27  
Yes, they void the warranty! Some dealers mau let it slide, but many wont!



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gman7

11-06-2005 20:21:25




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 Re: chip in powerstroke in reply to John M, 11-06-2005 06:58:56  
My buddy had a nice chip installed on his 99 7.3 It adds an extra 150hp on stage 4. Shortly thereafter he had to put in a new tranny as the torque converter was shot and the tranny was not shifting the way it should. He since upgraded and put higher rated aftermarket tranny in it. Its a really nice chip and it makes a world of difference, but only time will tell how long the engine will last. the 7.3 stock is a reliable motor, unlike the 6.0.

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