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Dug

11-07-2005 18:56:45




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I have a wash with about 75 tires thrown in. The mosquitos are horrendous. Any thoughts on combatting the problem? I have considered burning the tires, starting the fire just after sundown hoping the fire would burn out by morning light...but afraid it would smolder for days. Any suggestions.

Dug




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Pale Rider

11-09-2005 21:58:45




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
I don't know where you live and I realize this won't work in lots of places, but you could:

1) Put them out be the road with a sign that says "FREE". It's amazing some of the junk I've gotten ridden of that way. I think some people would haul away toxic waste if it was free.

2) Take them down to Les Schwaab a couple at at time, they are very accomodating and didn't charge me anything. Even if there was a nominal charge I'll bet you would find it to be a deal.

3) I wouldn't use them as any sort of landfill on your property. Around here the commercial landfills won't accept them because over time with all the compression of machinery driving over them with the contraction and expansion they will work their way to the surface of even a properly capped and covered landfill.

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CB in central NY

11-09-2005 07:28:27




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Another suggestion - why not hold on to those tires a while longer? There are all kinds of plans out there to recycle tires as fuel, etc. In fact, International Paper up in Ticonderoga, NY, is doing an experimental tire burn (folks in Vermont are up in arms about this, too). If successful, maybe someday companies will buy tires from us instead of us having to pay a hauler or recycler.



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Bottomboard5

11-09-2005 04:05:42




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Just what does a good used or new back tire for a 1956 850 series ford tractor run? Where can I purchase. *Dont want to buy interest in the company, just need a tire...thanks!



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jimNCal

11-08-2005 18:18:59




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
DON'T burn them IN the wash!! Anybody that's ever burned a tire on the beach can tell you that there's a H*LL of a LOT of 'liquid goo' that comes off that WILL get in the ground. BAD idea.
Tire amnesty OR, pay the buck or so each to your local tire dealer to throw them in his discard pile. Maybe you can work out some sort of trade? jim
ps... Scumballs that dump tires are best used for target practice.....

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Yugrotcart

11-08-2005 16:39:24




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Hmmmmm mm, bottom line.
You have to dispose of them properly,tire recycler, or it will come back to haunt you in the form of a fine or damage to the enviornment.
For example, 1 litre of spilt diesel fuel will contaminate a water source and make 1,000,000 litres of water undrinkable..... ..... .



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LouNY

11-08-2005 09:20:35




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Just start filling in that wash the tires will help to stabilize the ground and once they are covered they will not attract mosquitos or any other nosey bodies



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James2

11-08-2005 07:46:45




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
In Illinois some counties sporadically have a used tire amnesty day. On one parcel of purchased land, I removed and took approximately 300 tires to one of these gatherings. Don't try to burn 50 tires, you will able to see it for miles, and perhaps result in some unwanted attention as others have stated. I think the law allows sending old tires to the landfill if they are in pieces. Although tearing up and sending 50 tires would be quite an achievement If I tried this trick, I would be sure they were in pieces no larger than 8 inches square and sent in trash bags or old seed corn/wheat/soybean bags. If you burn the tires, don't do more than 3-4 at a time. Stack wood on top the tires and be sure it is burning good when the tires ignite. The flames from the wood will cause a secondary burn of the tire smoke, and clean it up somewhat. It's difficult, but not impossible to have little black smoke. It just takes a very hot fire. A fluidized bed is the goal but if my memory serves me correctly, temperatures need to be around 3000 degrees and you need to pump in air.

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colekicker

11-08-2005 05:53:20




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Well, if you want to stop the wash, use the tires. There was an article in Farm Show magazine a few years back about a farmer that started bolting the tires together. Filled them with dirt. Made it hard to move and stable to stop the wash since they were all bolted together. Might work. It'd get rid of the tires and stop your wash.



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thejdman01

11-08-2005 04:18:45




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
used to burn tires, till one of the neighbors turned us in. the fire dept came out (i am on the fire department though not very active with my age (somones got to direct traffic until the cops get out of the doughnut shop) 500 dollar fine, also had some OLD OLD OLD oil barrels 2 of them on the fire that were old but another 500 dollar fine. the tire recyclers the free day come bring them are rip offs in illinois. i brought in all my old tires and sadly was quite a few from over the years probably 200. well the guy at the recycler asked name adress id etc. and from then oon a mr epa health department man comes out and checks to make sure we dont have too many tires around"becuase of a west nile threat"

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midwest redneck

11-08-2005 02:55:34




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
This may sound ethical but you could slowly take the tires to a tire shop and dispose of them a few at a time so nobody would notice. Or take them to an asphalt mixing place and have the tires shredded in, I guess they do that now.



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doogdoog

11-08-2005 02:24:42




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Aloha, If worse came to worse, you could dig a hole with your tractor and bury them.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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37 chief

11-07-2005 22:37:35




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
We somehow ended up with around 100 old tires over 60 years worth. if it had any tread we kept it. Might make a spare sometime, sometime never happened. So what we did is cut the center out leaving the tread, then folded up the tread and tied it together. We were able to get rid of 4 or five each trash time. The center just laid on the trash. A good sabor saw with a coarse blade will do the job. One of the amigos that stay on our properity did the cutting. If we did the burning thing here in calif. someone would probably end up in jail. Stan

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John A.

11-07-2005 20:34:08




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Dug I know a guy that does just that. After dark, or on a light rain & foggy day. Also use about 5 to 10 gallons of DSL to get it going all at once. So the burn time is to a minimun. Also a goodly amt of brush won't hurt either.
It is your tea party I wouldn't do all 40 at once. just oneseeese-twoseeese with a lot of brush on foggy days and late evenings.
Later,
John A.



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wayne2

11-07-2005 21:48:53




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to John A., 11-07-2005 20:34:08  
Les Schuab takes em for 1$ car-5 for 1000-20, any const. around if approachable(big truck)sign FREE FILL WANTED Luck Wayne



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RayP(MI)

11-07-2005 19:18:28




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Tires burn with a very hot flame, and lots of black smoke. You can't hide the fact that you're burning them. Can be seen for miles. Best to see if you can get a recycler to take them. Around here, they get a couple bucks each.



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BobinKY

11-07-2005 19:03:31




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to Dug, 11-07-2005 18:56:45  
Around here you will get a big fine if you set those tires off. If it were me, I would call my local trash collection service. They will occassionally have a free day when you can bring in old paint cans, tires, etc. and there is no fee to get rid of them. It is worth a call anyway.



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chris sweetland

11-07-2005 19:11:38




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to BobinKY, 11-07-2005 19:03:31  
tires burn good and long if you were to burn that manny at once youd get yourself in some hot water if your set on burning them do it one or two at a time in a small camp fire or 5 or 6 in a larger brush fire



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ld9295

11-07-2005 21:41:33




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to chris sweetland, 11-07-2005 19:11:38  
If the EPA see's it or someone turns it in, your up the creek,WITHOUT A BOAT LET ALONE A PADDLE.
We had a buch in a bad wash to, i wanted to burn them and start putting fill in, after I was told what the fine would be, I took a back hoe, moved them around and started putting any dirt, rock or jsut about anything people want to get rid of as far as fill on top. I would call a recycler for the amount you have

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

11-08-2005 04:26:02




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 Re: OT - Old Tires in reply to ld9295, 11-07-2005 21:41:33  
Around here the farmers use the sidwalls to hold the tarps down that they cover their silage with.



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