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Joe Bloggs

11-12-2005 18:29:24




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I have a problem with the gas tank on my IH 454. the gas line keeps getting blocked at the tank. I have used air to blow the line clean and then I get about 20 minutes running time before it blocks up again. is there any way of fixing this with out removing the tank.




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Punchie

11-13-2005 14:53:29




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
HI We use a air hose and take off the sediment bowl etc.
Fill with about a gallon of gas and flush it out. When you think you got it all, get an other person and put safty glasses on and and a gallon and add air this time( use and end that you would use to blow off say a chain saw etc. ). Takes about 6-10 time about an hour or so, but you get allot of junk out of there. When you replace your sediment bowl try to place a screen tube above the threads , wire it on. we make them out of old window (door) screen. Make a roll and place on the sediment bowl, bend end over wire it.

Teddy

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Ron in AR

11-13-2005 05:11:34




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
One quick fix that I have used in a pinch on old trucks and cars.... drop a magnet into the tank (making sure it doesn't fall over the outlet opening of course). All of the rust will be caught there and stay there. Of course proper cleaning is best, but this will work if the problem is rust related.



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Hugh MacKay

11-13-2005 04:48:50




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
Joe: Often times the source of this crud is rust formed inside tank from tractor parked months or even years. Rust will form on tank above the gas level. When you start using tractor, the sloshing of gas loosens this material, after loosening this rust it goes one direction. Rusty has the solution, remove the tank, give it a good cleaning. Even after cleaning you should change the sediment bowl quite often, make sure screen in bowl is good. Even add an inline filter for a spell. I had this problem with my Super A years ago. It had been parked with little gas in tank before I bought it. At first it was chunks of rust plugging neck to sediment bowl. Once the larger sediment is gone screen will plug ocasionally. It took about a month to cure the problem. Since then, its never been a problem.

Another good idea I've seen is put some cleaning agent along with couple of quarts of pea stone in tank. Strap the tank to a rear tractor wheel, let it rotate slowly for about 10 min, then flush it well. Stones rolling around in this solution will loosen most of the rust.

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Fred Kobs

11-12-2005 22:29:13




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
have you checked/replaced the screen avove the sediment bowl?? Some of the older nylon ones look clean, but ethanol or gas treatments seem to melt it. Learned that one pushing snow one -20* day. have used all above methods w/limited success other than Rusty's sure fix, gonna try some of that pour-in liner after i have the next one cooked out.



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Sid

11-12-2005 20:31:56




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
I remember seeing decals and reading in some owners manuals directions that worked very well in preventing this very thing from happening. It also was on many gas caps years ago. "BUY CLEAN FUEL KEEP IT CLEAN".



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tg in VA

11-12-2005 19:40:32




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
I had the same problem with a MF20 industrial (gas). Even after I removed and cleaned the tank.
I solved it with a sump. I used 3/8" galvanized pipe. I screwed the first piece into the tank, then I added an el to which I attached the sediment bowl, et al. However, coming straignt down from the tank is a piece of 3/8" X 3" pipe which I capped. Periodically, I remove the cap and let the sediment flush out of the pipe. I place the cap back and am ready to go.
The problem with blowing the lines, etc., it that the sediment clogs the inlet to the sediment bowl, blowing the lines doesn"t help, even if it did, the sediment would just clog the inlet later.
This was a real simple and inexpensive fix. It has saved a lot of aggrivation.

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JMS/MN

11-12-2005 19:30:22




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
Most tractors have a sediment bulb under the tank. Drain the fuel from the tank. Remove the entire bulb assembly. Insert a plastic line inside of the cast portion of the assembly, cut it off so it sticks up into the tank about one inch when reinstalled. That will keep the crud floating around the bottom of the tank from getting into the sediment bowl.



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Mike (WA)

11-14-2005 15:10:54




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to JMS/MN, 11-12-2005 19:30:22  
I gave the same tip several times, and somebody said it doesn't help, because the sediment stays stirred up by the motion of the tractor. Sure seemed to help in my case, though. You just have to drain and flush the tank once in awhile, so the crud doesn't build up above the "standpipe".



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RustyFarmall

11-12-2005 18:37:36




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 Re: gas tank sediment in reply to Joe Bloggs, 11-12-2005 18:29:24  
Removing the tank for a thorough cleaning is the only sure way. Anything less will be only temporary.



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