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Bryan In Iowa

11-14-2005 11:08:53

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What originaly started out as a 4x4 insulted pump house for the well at my hunting ground , has now turned into a much bigger project. I would like to build a 12x28, or 14 x 28 cabin /shed. I want to have front half finished off so can stay in it . Back half would be garage or shed for some tools , lawn tractor , 4 wheeler etc. Not real sure how to go about building this , as i am by no means a builder , or designer . I would like the cabin area to have open ceiling so I can build "loft " sleeping area. What is the best and CHEAPEST way to frame this building up ? Studs ? Pole barn type? Where might i look for existing plans ?? Thanks

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jimNCal

11-15-2005 19:43:16

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

'A' Frame! Big/tall enough and you can have a second floor AND a loft. Do the roofing in 'pre-finished' 29 ga. Lap 6" with horizontal seams and you'll be able to leave the piled snow for added insulation in winter.

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1945 A

11-15-2005 05:50:03

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

I"m by no means a carpenter, either, but, this is what I did for my cabin (to replace having to set up a tent every time we went to my place).
I set a form, poured a slab using bagged concrete mix, built the wall sections, stood them up, used a "ram set" to hold them down, roof trusses, Hardi Siding, the whole 9 yards. It"s been a LONG process (building this thing), because it"s just me and the wife doing the work, but, it"s bug/mouse proof, insulated, and air conditioned.
I don"t regret any of it, except that I"m too optimistic when it comes to how long a phase of the building project will take---I tend to not allow enough time for things.
I"ll send a few photos if you"re interested.
Good Luck on whatever you decide to build!

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ntmcj

11-14-2005 21:38:34

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

Have you thought of a cordwood building? If you have access to some scrap softwood trees, it might be an option. Do a google search for 'dirt cheap building' and that web site will give some ideas. Mother Earth News also has some good articles online.

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jdemaris

11-14-2005 17:59:25

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

Depends a lot on how tight you want it to be, and if you want it good enough s it will be worth improving later. I'd rather have something I can improve and add to as time goes on, rather that something that will have to be torn down if I want something better later. I just built a 20' X 28' in the Adirondacks. I used treated 6" X 6" poles - dug the holes by hand. Doing such by hand does a nicer job - but of course is more work. Using poles and a high ceiling, you have the option later for a wood floor if desired. In regard to insulation - someone mentioned studs are easier to insulate - I assume with fiberglass? I'd never do it again for a remote cabin. The mice love the stuff and tear it out of walls, make nests, etc. I like pole-barn construction with exterior horizontal girts, then vertical siding or plywood. Inbetween - if you choose to insulate - I like using closed-cell foam sheets - 1" or 2" thick. Works great and the animals don't like it. I built another such cabin a few years ago except it was pole contruction for the first story. Second story was conventional 2"X 6" frame using the first floor as the foundation. Worked very nicely.

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paul

11-14-2005 16:43:16

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

Studs become the easiest to insulate, add electric & water, etc if you plan to live in it. Pole barn is cheapest if you just want a shed.

I was thinking a Menards type of 2-3 stall garage as well, they have trusses with a space for an upstairs room, etc. At least look at, see some ideas.

--->Paul

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Bill in NorthCentral PA

11-14-2005 15:35:28

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

I built a 14x28 for a cabin a couple of years ago. Not that this is "gospel", but it is what I did. I drilled holes for 6x6 treated posts, and fastened treated 2x10 headers to them. On top of this, I framed the floor and sheathed with plywood. For the walls above this, I conventionally framed them, etc.

Mine has an 8" porch on one end, with 12x12 loft over the porch and into the cabin itself. I closed the walls in with hemlock board & batten and shingle roof. I framed the open section of roof with a "truss" design and the loft with a cathedral ceiling. First floor walls are 7", with a total wall height of 14" (which is about 6" upstairs after the loft floor framing.

I would expect that this may fly for your use with some ingenious ramp system (or taking advantage of the grade of the site, etc.

Sorry so long.

Bill

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Bryan in Iowa

11-14-2005 19:14:58

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 11-14-2005 15:35:28

Sounds like pretty cool set up . Wouldn't have any pics would you ? Would love to see it . Thanks Bryan

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Bill in NorthCentral PA

11-14-2005 15:36:25

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 11-14-2005 15:35:28

Sorry - the loft is 14x14.

Bill

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RustyFarmall

11-14-2005 13:03:26

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

Menards has plans for just about anything you might want to build. They also have complete building packages for anything from a small lawn shed up to very large machine sheds. You might want to look at their residential garage packages, or a pole frame building in about the same size. With a pole frame you can put up the building first, and then run a concrete floor later, or just leave it as a dirt floor.

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Rick in IA.

11-14-2005 12:19:57

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

Hi Byron,

I'm not a carpneter so can't help with plans.

We moved an old wood shed 14' x 24' on to a concrete pad for our cabin. Has a wood floor with dead air space beteen the floor and the pad. We have a old sliding glass door on one end going out to a 10' x14' deck with a roof. The deck is agreat place to keep coolers and fire wood. Also have propane lights, stove and wall mounted direct vent heater. The stone fire place in the corner has an outside vent to draw air in, this is a must as the fire place doesn't pull the warm air out of the cabin up the chimney. Had a lot of fun building ours. I'm in NW IA. where are you located ?

Rick

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Bryan in Iowa

11-14-2005 19:18:23

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Rick in IA., 11-14-2005 12:19:57

I'm in Marion / Cedar Rapids , but hunting land is up between Decorah and Waukon NE Ia .

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mjbrown

11-14-2005 12:57:38

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Rick in IA., 11-14-2005 12:19:57

Check with your county cooperative extension. They definatley have shed plans.

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old

11-14-2005 11:50:12

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to Bryan In Iowa , 11-14-2005 11:08:53

Best place to look is a libary. I'd go with a pole type and insulat and put a floor in it. But that me and I do build a lot of cheap salage buildings.

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Lou

11-14-2005 12:19:56

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Re: OT building cabin/shed in reply to old, 11-14-2005 11:50:12

Pole barns are economical, but for what you want how about an A frame for the cabin area, with a shed roof off the back for storage? Just a thought.

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